Hardy Says Keyonte Has a Chance to be a Star

[jazznik]

However lets try and verify your "every guy was league average or better" claim and see how they compare against their rookie year league averages:
Devin Booker -2.2%
Kevin Durant -4.6%
Kobe Bryant -1.6%
Trae Young -4.4%
Ray Allen +0.3%
Allen Iverson -2.5%
Steve Nash -0.4%

So there goes your credibility. I mean Nash and Allen were there (2 out 7, yay!), but Nash shot 44.1% in his 3rd year which was his first year as a starter and his glow up happened on year 4 after which he shot 54% or more almost every year for the rest of his career.

But I did not say "every guy was league average or better"? What I said is that for the players listed there who started their career in the late 90s their eFG in the rookie season was about the league average or even slightly better. Not everybody there started their career in the late 90s, so it does not apply to Trae Young, Devin Booker and Kevin Durant. So what you have is indeed league-average ot better shooting for the remaining with the only slight outlier being Allen Iverson, who even in his prime was often being labeled as inefficient for a star. Again, Keyonte's rookie shooting was more than 6% worse than the league average: he is simply in a (bad) tier of his own. I am pretty sure that there are examples of star shooters who started 6.5% below the league average but it would be a very, very rare instance.

 

[HermanG]

But I did not say "every guy was league average or better"? What I said is that for the players listed there who started their career in the late 90s their eFG in the rookie season was about the league average or even slightly better. Not everybody there started their career in the late 90s, so it does not apply to Trae Young, Devin Booker and Kevin Durant. So what you have is indeed league-average ot better shooting for the remaining with the only slight outlier being Allen Iverson, who even in his prime was often being labeled as inefficient for a star. Again, Keyonte's rookie shooting was more than 6% worse than the league average: he is simply in a (bad) tier of his own. I am pretty sure that there are examples of star shooters who started 6.5% below the league average but it would be a very, very rare instance.

Your fixation to trash Keyonte in a discussion about potential improvement is weird. I mean saying he was bad is one thing, but trying to paint a picture that he will remain bad is just pure hating.

Keyonte has the form, technique and clean release to go with great FT shooting consistency and accuracy. So the indications that he may turn out to be a good shooter are there, and it may be all about adapting to the range and getting more upper body strength.

You wanting to bury him is just sad.

 

[slc]

I like Keyonte. Hope he has a great career.
But not sure he will ever be as good as Donovan
Donovan was ready to play right out of the box and it was very obvious
Donovan already had an NBA body and he is maybe good enough to play MLB or NFL
That's how good he is

 

[fishonjazz]

Your fixation to trash Keyonte in a discussion about potential improvement is weird. I mean saying he was bad is one thing, but trying to paint a picture that he will remain bad is just pure hating.

Keyonte has the form, technique and clean release to go with great FT shooting consistency and accuracy. So the indications that he may turn out to be a good shooter are there, and it may be all about adapting to the range and getting more upper body strength.

You wanting to bury him is just sad.

This. I think he will end up being a good player. He has all the tools

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