leftyjace
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Colter, with all due respect...
Moving to Utah County and voluntarily subjecting myself to "the bubble" will never happen.
Has anyone moved to get away from the inversion/air in SLC?
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Colter, with all due respect...
Moving to Utah County and voluntarily subjecting myself to "the bubble" will never happen.
Duck Rodgers
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I don't think Provo's air is any better than SLC's. My guess is it's actually worse. Today for instance, Provo's AQI is 153 and SLC's is 104.
Edit: Here's SLC region's 2013 AQI maps:
The Red tends to be over Provo on bad days, with SLC being a notch down from that on the color scale usually.
https://www.airnow.gov/index.cfm?ac...e=aqipeak&domainid=47&calyear=2013&calmonth=1
What about Tooele? That seems to go moderate at worst.
Edit: Here's SLC region's 2013 AQI maps:
The Red tends to be over Provo on bad days, with SLC being a notch down from that on the color scale usually.
https://www.airnow.gov/index.cfm?ac...e=aqipeak&domainid=47&calyear=2013&calmonth=1
What about Tooele? That seems to go moderate at worst.
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Depends on the monitoring station and pollutant (PM2.5 and Ozone are the problems). Lindon and Cottonwood are consistently high and similar in 24-hour average PM2.5. Provo, Bountiful, Highland, & Rose Park have better air. Provo and Spanish Fork have been consistently lower than Cottonwood for ozone.
The Thriller
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This is like debating which teams is worse... Cleveland or Sacramento?
Been to both counties. The difference is minimal. Horrible air is just horrible air.
b_line
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I know you have said that Provo has better air than Salt Lake, but Provo has had the worst air quality in the country this year on at least one occasion that I can remember. To say that it is better than Salt Lake in Air Quality is like saying the water on the top of the toilet is clean because your dookie already sunk to the bottom...
Not only that, but unless you love BYU culture, and Roscoe the EQP, then Provo is just not a very fun place to live. I have lived in Provo and Salt Lake, and the only reason I would choose to live in Provo again, unless I got a stellar job there, and a house that was free.
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Tooele seemed to be worse than salt lake today.
In fact tooele today was worse than I have ever seen it in salt lake
In fact tooele today was worse than I have ever seen it in salt lake
b_line
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Tooele is always worse than salt lake bro...
Wait you were talking about the inversion.
Yeah, I was going to post that I drove to SLC today, and coming back to Utah county looked just about as bad as going into SL county.
@ babe -- I can't find any of your several posts about putting scrubbers on residential homes so I'm putting this here.
I finally got around to calculating this impact and it's pretty negligible: 56 tons VOC and a 78 tons total PM for an entire year statewide. I used the AP-42 factors in Table 1.4 (5.5 lb VOC/10^6 scf, 7.6 lb PM/10^6 scf)*, 878,000 households**, 1 scf/1027btu, average Utah household gas consumption***, and assume 100% scrubber removal efficiency.
*https://www.epa.gov/ttn/chief/ap42/ch01/final/c01s04.pdf
**https://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/49000.html
**https://apps1.eere.energy.gov/states/residential.cfm/state=UT
I finally got around to calculating this impact and it's pretty negligible: 56 tons VOC and a 78 tons total PM for an entire year statewide. I used the AP-42 factors in Table 1.4 (5.5 lb VOC/10^6 scf, 7.6 lb PM/10^6 scf)*, 878,000 households**, 1 scf/1027btu, average Utah household gas consumption***, and assume 100% scrubber removal efficiency.
*https://www.epa.gov/ttn/chief/ap42/ch01/final/c01s04.pdf
**https://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/49000.html
**https://apps1.eere.energy.gov/states/residential.cfm/state=UT
Dumb this down for the rest of us if you don't mind.
Industry often runs exhaust through scrubbers (think of it as atomized water spray inside an enclosure) or baghouses (basically a giant vacuum cleaner). babe has suggested putting these on our homes so I calculated the potential emission reductions from natural gas furnace exhaust.
VOC's are a precursor to particulate matter (PM); that and ozone are the pollutants of concern during our wintertime inversions. 56 tons VOC and 76 tons PM over the entire year would be a pretty negligible reduction.
***Edit***
I just skimmed through the annual UDAQ report to put those numbers into perspective. Total statewide VOC and PM emissions during 2012 were 859,652 & 53,863 tons emitted respectively (total PM isn't followed because it's the 10 microns and smaller particles that are hazardous).
https://www.airquality.utah.gov/Public-Interest/annual-report/.pdf/2012Annual Report.pdf (page 20)
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