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zman1527 said:
Thanks Gordon for the great years and for the gracious goodbye letter. Last year was amazing, I had thought you had plateaued but you took it to another level. Best of luck in Boston, I hope that you guys challenge the Cavs every year.

I for one will be rooting for you going forward, in thanks for all your good years here. Ignore the small-minded people here posting all sorts of ugly stuff about you. I guess their lives are so shallow and empty that they cannot just appreciate past effort and respect a man's decision to move on to a better place. OF COURSE, they would ALL turn down a better job to show absolute loyalty to their current employer. Of course they would.
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Well, someone took his letter seriously. I guess there's that.

It's nice to know you think Boston is a better place than Utah. I guess you have that in common with Hayward as well.
 
Nate505 said:
Well, someone took his letter seriously. I guess there's that.

It's nice to know you think Boston is a better place than Utah. I guess you have that in common with Hayward as well.
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As a former resident of Salt Lake City and Boston, let me tell you something:

If you prioritize living in an urban environment, then Boston kicks the ****ing trash out of SLC. Boston is a cool city. I'm way less hype on "city" than I used to be, but I'm not in my 20s anymore. Nor am I married to a teenager.
 
F'n Cook at my workplace told me they were getting Hayward months ago! Not kidding lol
 
Green18! said:
I will definitely take the time to listen when I can. I want to quickly mention that I think this all starts with Brad Stevens. If Stevens coached in Miami then I don't think Boston is in the picture. My guy tells me Hayward was comfortable in Utah and wouldn't have left without a familiar situation to go to.

I think it's fair to assume that Hayward was learning towards Boston for quite a while now. At the same time I bet he was in denial during the season and didn't want to address the situation. It's fair to criticize Hayward for avoiding the situation until free agency. I'm sure the thought of leaving made him feel guilty and he just blocked it out.
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Appreciate your posts mate, very reasonable. I really don't think the allure of Tatum and Brown developing has anything to do with his wanting to go to Boston at all though. Utah was in a position to win big now which is what he has said for the last year, and to be competitive with the big teams West apart from the Warriors. It's become pretty apparent that he made his mind up quite a while ago and has pretty much lied to everyone in the organization. I think even if we pushed the Warriors to 7 games he's still going. Everyone is salty because every thing that could possibly have been done for him has and it hasn't made any difference.

Clearly for some reason he's just so bent on reuniting with his college coach above all other things. Which seems strange for a grown man. It's very telling that he's obviously deceived his teammates as well going by their tweets. The whole 3 meetings tour and "he still hasn't made his mind up " is clearly a farce designed to try to make him look like the good guy. He played everyone including quite possibly his agent as well partially and left the Jazz with zero time to make alternate arrangements to chase other players. If he'd informed management or at least not crapped on with all this BS and just said he wanted a new start i'd be real disappointed but still liked and respected him. The way it's gone down i now have zero respect for him. He obviously isn't who a lot of people thought he was.. Terrific player tho, i just don't swallow all those other reasons.
 
fishonjazz said:
Surely you jest
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Green18! said:
Hey guys I am a Boston Celtics fan and I felt the need to give you a view from my perspective after seeing the level of hate that Hayward is receiving. I want to lead this by saying that I think this entire situation is unfortunate for Jazz fans and that my initial reaction would be to bash Hayward too. Free agency is one of the most exciting things in sports but it's also a double edged sword when a great player leaves a model organization. To be completely honest I enjoyed watching the Jazz more than any other Western Conference team last year. Your team plays the game the right way and it was very easy to enjoy the the gritty mentality that Snyder instilled from top to bottom. Game 1 against the LA Clippers is a perfect example of this. I wish your franchise nothing but the best and I hope Gobert develops into a legitimate top tier Superstar. I also want to add that I don't think the Joe Ingles contact is bad for the franchise. Any contending team would be happy to have a player like him.

Anyways I am not coming on here to try and tell everyone not to be angry or agitated with how everything was handled. I simply feel the need to counter with an argument as to why Gordon didn't take an easy road like Durant or LeBron. I have seen this sentiment echoed quite a bit and I think it is a lazy narrative. We obviously know the Stevens factor was important but I also believe that our long term flexibility with draft picks and young talent was the difference maker. Gordon Hayward is clearly not coming to a team that is ready to win a title yet and we don't even a top 10 player on our roster. IT was amazing last season but he's not going to be a perennial top 10 player. Al Horford is a fringe All-Star and probably has two prime years remaining at most. The Celtics needed to sell Gordon on the process of being part of a team that could build itself into a title contender 2 or 3 years down the road. It's easy to hate us right now but our current roster is full of guys that play with a chip on their shoulder. If our team flipped rosters and coaches I am pretty confident in saying that Jazz fans would love their team.

I honestly believe that if your team had our Brooklyn 2018 pick and LA 2018(2-5) then you would have been able to bring him back. I have also seen a lot of people claim that Ainge will use Hayward for 3 years and then bail on him once Tatum + Jaylen hit their prime years. This couldn't be further from the truth. The future development of Tatum and Brown were definitely used as a selling point for Gordon to join us. Continuity is one of the most important priorities for both Stevens and Ainge. Any team that wants to dethrone Golden State in the future is going to need multiple wing players that can play multiple positions at an All-Star level.

I have a lot more I could say but I will stop here. Like I said before, I really hope the Jazz rebound quickly and that this is nothing more than a minor setback. You guys have one of the few organizations that gets it.
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In hindsight, it ****ing bangs that Utah went into the draft with Trey Lyles and a 24th (!!) pick, and netted a better player than Ainge did with Brooklyn's.
 
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