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Help a n00b out: When does Gobert receive an extension?

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As somebody who has only recently started following the NBA, I'm not going to pretend to understand contract extensions, bird years, and all of that jazz (no pun intended). With that said, I have seen franchise players and fan favorites such as Chris Bosh, LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Shaquille O'Neal, Pau Gasol, Chris Paul, and countless others leave for money at the top of their career. My question, while it may be an ignorant one, is what guarantee is there that Rudy Gobert is a Jazz for the long run?

I've noticed that many Jazz fans are convinced that Rudy is the future. While that may absolutely be true, I guess I'm just looking for some confirmation that him staying in Utah is not only possible, but probable. While I'm not necessarily a die hard, my 12 year old son is. He was diagnosed with stage 3 cancer last year, and the highlight of his life so far was shaking hands with Rudy and getting his autograph. For my son's sake as well as the great fans of Utah, I hope Rudy breaks records with the Jazz for years to come.
 
The simple answer is that the Jazz will offer him a 5 year max contract before his 5th season (2017) similar to how the Rockets extended Harden and the Cavs extended Irving just this past year. After that contract ends, the Jazz will be able to offer Rudy millions more and and extra guaranteed year over every other team in the league. For all intents and purposes, the Jazz should easily be able to keep Rudy for 10+ years before really having to deal with major contract issues. The only caveat to this is if he has the juice to include player option years into his contract, which could shorten the length of it and force Utah's hand sooner than desired. See Also: Gordon Hayward's RFA offer sheet terms.
 
They will actually probably offer him an extension next summer(2016 - whether he will accept it and whether it will be 5 max or 4 max I don't know, if it's not max he probably won't accept it and will try to work his way into max money), but the extension kicks in in 2017.
 
stitches said:
They will actually probably offer him an extension next summer(2016 - whether he will accept it and whether it will be 5 max or 4 max I don't know, if it's not max he probably won't accept it and will try to work his way into max money), but the extension kicks in in 2017.
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Thanks. Most guys take the max offer (4 or 5 years) and don't risk getting hurt or jobbed in RFA. Rudy has nothing to lose by taking the deal. The new TV money will kick in before the Jazz extend or match on him.
 
Its not the first contract extension players leave. Bosh, Lebron, Dwill and so forth took the first contract extension. Some of them shorter ones but still took it. Its the next go around the tend to leave at.
 
He should sign for the 5 year extension, assuming he makes all-NBA or all-star team next year as he may be eligible for the "Derrick Rose rule".
 
sgjazzfan said:
He should sign for the 5 year extension, assuming he makes all-NBA or all-star team next year as he may be eligible for the "Derrick Rose rule".
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I believe we can only have one 5 year player at a time.

See
https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q60

We can have one 'designated' player

For example, the Oklahoma City Thunder extended Russell Westbrook's rookie scale contract in 2011 (with the extension taking effect in 2012-13). They selected Westbrook as their Designated Player and extended him through 2016-17 (five new years, six total). The Thunder therefore are not allowed to designate another player for a five-year extension (Kevin Durant signed his five-year extension under the 2005 CBA) until 2017, as long as Westbrook is on their roster. However, they can trade for one (and only one) player who was designated by another team.
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sgjazzfan said:
He should sign for the 5 year extension, assuming he makes all-NBA or all-star team next year as he may be eligible for the "Derrick Rose rule".
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I think he needs to do that twice. If he were voted league MVP, he'd only have to do it 1x. Pretty significant, though, if he wants the full 30% because Hayward will also be eligible for 30% based upon 7 years in the league at that point. Jazz are going to have serious money problems even under the new cap if everyone wants max amount.
 
Stifle Tower said:
I think he needs to do that twice. If he were voted league MVP, he'd only have to do it 1x. Pretty significant, though, if he wants the full 30% because Hayward will also be eligible for 30% based upon 7 years in the league at that point. Jazz are going to have serious money problems even under the new cap if everyone wants max amount.
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Have to hope that they have success and decide to be the new Spurs. Take a little less than market value to keep a strong, contending team together. Another reason why guys like Burks and Favors are good to have around. Reasonable contracts moving forward and enjoy being in Utah instead of looking for the fastest way out of town.
 
Ellis269 said:
Have to hope that they have success and decide to be the new Spurs. Take a little less than market value to keep a strong, contending team together. Another reason why guys like Burks and Favors are good to have around. Reasonable contracts moving forward and enjoy being in Utah instead of looking for the fastest way out of town.
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I think we can pay Rudy part of his contract in cheese. French like all those fancy kinds. Just promise to put a cheese plate in his hotel room every night on the road. Just my impression and maybe I'm WAY off base, but Rudy strikes me as the type to give Utah a discount. I can't read Hayward.
 
On the other hand, Rudy is very motivated by being slighted. I'd hate to see the Jazz lowball him and have that energy turned inward instead of outward.
 
Ellis269 said:
On the other hand, Rudy is very motivated by being slighted. I'd hate to see the Jazz lowball him and have that energy turned inward instead of outward.
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I think there's a way to do it. Maybe you have Hayward, Favors and Rudy in a room together with their agents and outline the financial outlook of the Jazz. Don't have them agree or disagree in the meeting, just lay out the general parameters. Show the Cavs model vs. the Spurs and W's - i.e. if those three want max or near max, they could have it, but understand the rest of the team would then consist of mainly lower-tier vets or guys on rookie contracts.
 
The new CBA and the new cap, via the TV deal, will allow teams to max out at least 3 players. We'll be playing out the next few identifying our maxed players and keep them. Right now it looks like Gobert, Hayward, and Favors. We'll see.
 
Stifle Tower said:
I think we can pay Rudy part of his contract in cheese. French like all those fancy kinds. Just promise to put a cheese plate in his hotel room every night on the road. Just my impression and maybe I'm WAY off base, but Rudy strikes me as the type to give Utah a discount. I can't read Hayward.
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Seems pretty likely that Hayward is going to go for the max he can get based on his last round of negotiations.
 
Stifle Tower said:
I think he needs to do that twice. If he were voted league MVP, he'd only have to do it 1x. Pretty significant, though, if he wants the full 30% because Hayward will also be eligible for 30% based upon 7 years in the league at that point. Jazz are going to have serious money problems even under the new cap if everyone wants max amount.
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I know, but if he does that next year, there is a pretty good chance he could in 2016-2017 if he stays healthy. He'd sign the 5 year contract at 25 % to be eligible, then if he got a second All NBA or All star, then he would get the 30%.
 
sgjazzfan said:
I know, but if he does that next year, there is a pretty good chance he could in 2016-2017 if he stays healthy. He'd sign the 5 year contract at 25 % to be eligible, then if he got a second All NBA or All star, then he would get the 30%.
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Yes, exactly. I believe that was the case with Paul George.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Seems pretty likely that Hayward is going to go for the max he can get based on his last round of negotiations.
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Just curious but does anyone know how many players that have max contracts have never had an all-star appearance?
 
LogGrad98 said:
Just curious but does anyone know how many players that have max contracts have never had an all-star appearance?
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There`s gonna be a lot of them this year I think. With the rising cap, it really is no big deal to give rookies their max extension under the currant CBA.

Chandler Parsons and Gordon are the 2 I know in this category now.
 
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