I am not sure that they are not similar at all. Their ideal position is at the 4. Defensively Flip is quite bad at the 5, while Hendricks is a poor choice at the 3 since he cannot really dribble well and he is bulked up quite a bit since his freshman season. He probably can play the small-center center too by now against certain match-ups. They have a different playing style but both of them are certainly bigs.
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Are you sure about "many"? Lets look at the last two drafts to see what kind of currently or potentially starting centers were drafted and who did they replace.
2023
Wemby - shooting C, replaced Poeltl (non-shooting)
Lively - non-shooting C, replaced Powell (non-shooting)
2024
Sarr - shooting C, replaced Gafford (non-shooting)
Clingan - shooting C, replacing Ayton (non-shooting)
Edey - shooting C, replaced Adams and Biyombo (non-shooting)
Ware - shooting C, replaced Adebayo (non-shooting C who became shooting and was promptly moved to PF)
Missi - non-shooting C, replaced Valanciunas (kinda-sorta shooting at the time)
In total: 6 new shooting centers replaced 6 non-shooting, 2 new non-shooting centers replaced 1 shooting and 1 non-shooting. The trend is pretty clear.
Here is the count of teams with starting non-shooting centers.
Non-shooting centers - 12
Nets - Claxton
Raptors - Poeltl
Clippers - Zubac
Cleveland - Allen
Pistons - Duren
Hawks - Capela
Hornets - Williams
Wolves - Gobert
Jazz- Kessler
Mavs - Lively
Rockets - Sengun
Pelicans - Missi
Shooting centers - 15
No established centers - 3 (Lakers, Suns, Warriors)
So, even right now teams with non-shooting centers are in the minority. Two of the non-shooting centers, Capela and Gobert, are getting up in years, and Claxton will probably be replaced as a starter soon if there is an opportunity. Essentially, soon non-shooting centers will be competing for the starting positions for only ~ 10 teams: most of them will be probably employed only as a match-up type of defensive big off the bench.
Non-shooting centers - 12
Nets - Claxton
Raptors - Poeltl
Clippers - Zubac
Cleveland - Allen
Pistons - Duren
Hawks - Capela
Hornets - Williams
Wolves - Gobert
Jazz- Kessler
Mavs - Lively
Rockets - Sengun
Pelicans - Missi
Shooting centers - 15
No established centers - 3 (Lakers, Suns, Warriors)
So, even right now teams with non-shooting centers are in the minority. Two of the non-shooting centers, Capela and Gobert, are getting up in years, and Claxton will probably be replaced as a starter soon if there is an opportunity. Essentially, soon non-shooting centers will be competing for the starting positions for only ~ 10 teams: most of them will be probably employed only as a match-up type of defensive big off the bench.
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It appears that your standards for calling someone a shooting center is different than mine.
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Edey took 0.8 threes per game. Clingan took 0.7
Fwiw Kessler took 0.6 threes per game.
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Ya at the very least edey and clingan are not shooting centers.
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Seems clear to me that you have more of a trend of looking for non-shooting centers being able to do at least minimal things in ball-handling and passing rather than specifically requiring them being shooters (and you still need more that they're at worst average in rim protection than they being league average pure catch-and-shooters that have a higher release point)
And that there's a return of twin towers trend, but a trend where now you have both seven footers being decent to high skilled players and decent to ridiculous athletes, instead of a Perkins type starter.
And that there's a return of twin towers trend, but a trend where now you have both seven footers being decent to high skilled players and decent to ridiculous athletes, instead of a Perkins type starter.
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When will we see Tay Henny back on a basketball court? Summer League? Training camp or later?