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Hey Big Al haters...

Marty McFly

Marty McFly

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You know who you are. Instead of acting like you didn't give up on him after 10 games, maybe you should admint you were wrong in the anti-Big Al thread and let us know how good the crow tastes.
 
Big Al has been playing pretty darn well for the majority of this early season so far. AND, he is seemingly getting better and more comfortable in our system with every game. Keep hating fair weather fans, keep hating... Always looking for something to cry about.
 
Bynum isnt that great of a player. The lakers are better with odum on the floor. The only thing he brings is more rest for Gasol.

The way to beat the Lakers is to stop Gasol and then Kobe becomes a one dementional player. Then you can key on one player instead of an entire team.

Bynum is like Fes and Elson. He is big and any production you get from him is nice.
 
I am impressed that he is starting to score off the offense. His push shot is a thing of beauty when it goes in, but when it doesn't IT IS UGLY! I think he is starting to get in rhythm with Dwill. I am worried that the Jerry will mess up his progression when Memo comes back.
 
Big Al will be fine. He has to learn not just a new system, which he has really never done in his career (not to mention the most obviously complex system in the league), but he has to learn a whole new way of being a team-mate. There is something to be said about him always being "the man" on crappy teams. It isn't that he doesn't or won't lean on his team mates, he has simply never had team mates anywhere near this caliber, and initially he will get lost in things. It was inevitable. But he is working into it. He is a good, talented ball player with a good attitude, and as long as he puts in a solid effort he will learn and grow in the Jazz scheme of things. In the long run his ability to play some defense will separate him from Bozzer, and make us a better team.
 
LogGrad98 said:
He is a good, talented ball player with a good attitude, and as long as he puts in a solid effort he will learn and grow in the Jazz scheme of things. In the long run his ability to play some defense will separate him from Bozzer, and make us a better team.
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....don't know what it is for sure...but Big Al makes us a better team than we had with Boozer. Maybe it's some intangibles....Boozer was a finesse Duke boy....Al is more of a semi-polished school yard kid who looks meaner and plays with more reckless abandon both offensively and defensively. I think he puts more fear in opponents, not because he's talented but he's just someone who will bang with them and not back down? He certainly cares for the ball better than Boozer....and has a much better attitude of wanting to win and not just cash a pay check! He's working hard to blend....Boozer was just interested in his next contract.
 
Karadrys30 said:
Bynum isnt that great of a player. The lakers are better with odum on the floor. The only thing he brings is more rest for Gasol.

The way to beat the Lakers is to stop Gasol and then Kobe becomes a one dementional player. Then you can key on one player instead of an entire team.

Bynum is like Fes and Elson. He is big and any production you get from him is nice.
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Karadrys30 said:
Bynum isnt that great of a player. The lakers are better with odum on the floor. The only thing he brings is more rest for Gasol.

The way to beat the Lakers is to stop Gasol and then Kobe becomes a one dementional player. Then you can key on one player instead of an entire team.

Bynum is like Fes and Elson. He is big and any production you get from him is nice.
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LOL what? Bynum averaged 15 points and 8 boards last season. He's one of the best centers in the league.

The Lakers are definitely better with him.
 
Marty McFly said:
You know who you are. Instead of acting like you didn't give up on him after 10 games, maybe you should admint you were wrong in the anti-Big Al thread and let us know how good the crow tastes.
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I'm pretty sure McFly was more drunk when he posted this than Al Jefferson was when he got his DUI and endangered the lives of women and children.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Big Al will be fine. He has to learn not just a new system, which he has really never done in his career (not to mention the most obviously complex system in the league), but he has to learn a whole new way of being a team-mate. There is something to be said about him always being "the man" on crappy teams. It isn't that he doesn't or won't lean on his team mates, he has simply never had team mates anywhere near this caliber, and initially he will get lost in things. It was inevitable. But he is working into it. He is a good, talented ball player with a good attitude, and as long as he puts in a solid effort he will learn and grow in the Jazz scheme of things. In the long run his ability to play some defense will separate him from Bozzer, and make us a better team.
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Agree. And his conditioning has been off. As much as he said he worked in the off-season, he's never been in the Jazz offense. He's never had to be in constant motion each possession and had PG's who have really pushed the ball up the floor...not to mention the altitude adjustment. I think all that combined, including new plays and the numerous variations off of those plays, is bound to slow down any player whne he first joins the Jazz.

Compare Big Al against Earl Watson. Same thing. Watson looked tentative through the first 10 games or so. I think Earl is just now starting to feel comfortable with the offfense. That second unit is really incredible. I NEVER, EVER thought a Sloan-coached team would have two undersized guards on the floor at the same time...Nellie-ball!

And as for Bynum, don't kid yourself Karadrys, he's a fantastic player - when healthy. And having him at C and sliding Gasol over to PF makes that front court damn near unstoppable. But that's the key part - when healthy. Bynum has been about as durable as Carlos Boozer.
 
Great game for Al last night - and the first game this season he has had multiple possessions where he let the offense work for him. I have not been a hater but I have also said we would miss Booz. Still not willing to hug up on Al because he is finally figuring out the offense. Hope he keeps it up but i will wait and see.
 
Al looked like a fish out of water for the first 10 or so games but he has shown a lot of improvement since then. I'm actually surprised at how much better he has gotten in such a short period of time. I didn't expect him to be playing this well until after the AS break.
 
Marty McFly said:
You know who you are. Instead of acting like you didn't give up on him after 10 games, maybe you should admint you were wrong in the anti-Big Al thread and let us know how good the crow tastes.
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Yeah, you Big Al haters, eat some crow.

Sure, Marty and other AJ apologists were slightly mistaken for at least 3 of the first 13 games, but hey, what's a few unnecessary losses here and there? Heck, Utah only missed home court by a game or two last season, and missed out on the 2 seed by three or five games.

Now that AJ is actually meriting PT by boxing out and catching passes and moving his feet, all of his prior underperformance--and the game-losing coaching around it--can be forgotten in as quick as a Gordan Hayward minute (of playing time). It is also very comforting to see that the second stringers are making up for Utah starters' mostly slow starts (which could be further mitigated IMHO by earlier substitutions when it's not working), and Sloan fortunately has found some combinations that work reasonably well; i.e., the prison guards (and Eurocenters) playing together.

I still think that another 5 minutes or more of a big (Elson or Fes) playing alongside a semi-big (Millsap or Jefferson) would make everything go better on most nights. A key example of that would be against a team with a tall starting lineup such as the Clippers.
 
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