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Chaffetz is trying to get the facts about what happened.

Lets get something straight. Chaffetz doesn't give a crap about Bengali, benghazi, safety, spending, or his mothers health.

He cares about making a name for himself. The smile says it all.
 
Thriller, I was just talking about your past posting history. You attempt to find fault with the right while continuously praising the left. I don't care if you do it, I just find it hilarious when you diss on conservatives for doing the same thing.
 
Thriller, I was just talking about your past posting history. You attempt to find fault with the right while continuously praising the left. I don't care if you do it, I just find it hilarious when you diss on conservatives for doing the same thing.

Really? Were you not around when the Syria thing was going on? Pretty sure I wasn't lock step in line with "the left" then.

But Nice job avoiding all the questions brought up. Troll on, *** wipe
 
Really? Were you not around when the Syria thing was going on? Pretty sure I wasn't lock step in line with "the left" then.

But Nice job avoiding all the questions brought up. Troll on, *** wipe

Pretty sure I was banned during that time period. Anyways, most of what I see from you is the same thing that you rant at the conservatives about. It's humorous.

Umm...I didn't answer the questions on Syria because they were never part of the discussion that I brought up. I mean, I could start to bring up random questions from the Bible, Farmers Almanacs and The Illiad, but I also wouldn't expect you to answer them because they aren't part of our discussion. So yeah, if not answering questions that aren't related to the discussion at hand is trolling, then I was definitely trolling your ***!
 
Pretty sure I was banned during that time period. Anyways, most of what I see from you is the same thing that you rant at the conservatives about. It's humorous.

Umm...I didn't answer the questions on Syria because they were never part of the discussion that I brought up. I mean, I could start to bring up random questions from the Bible, Farmers Almanacs and The Illiad, but I also wouldn't expect you to answer them because they aren't part of our discussion. So yeah, if not answering questions that aren't related to the discussion at hand is trolling, then I was definitely trolling your ***!

Read post 39. Those were the questions asked.

I brought up Syria because while that whole incident was going on I was raging against what Obama wanted. That doesn't exactly for the partisan mold you make me out to be.
 
Hillary did kind of take the fall for benghazi so there is that.

Let's connect the dots here:

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Who are these conservative women that we treat so poorly?

If you're discussing Sarah Palin, I would submit to you that there is a substantial difference between pointing out that someone doesn't know anything and frequently makes ignorant statements and saying that another person is fat and ugly.

BTW: You are aware that the Duck Dynasty guys are making fun of their fans with their hyper backwoods schtick right? These are the Duck Dynasty guys in all their bro-tastic glory.

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I don't know why I'm even bothering to respond to the trolls.

Mockery is mockery. I'm for mockery equality, Jack.

Your attempt to "bash back" was adorable, though.

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Mockery is mockery. I'm for mockery equality, Jack.

No, it's not. Mockery of a disadvantaged group, for stereotypical traits that lead to people creating the disadvantage, reinforces the stereotype. This is referred to as "punching down". Mockery of an advantaged group is "punching up". Mockery of people who pretend expertise is always fair, though.

If Clinton claimed to be a fitness guru, constantly preaching about the importance of body weight, her own weight would be fair game. If she claimed to be a fashion mogul, was bringing out a line of clothes, etc., her fashion choices would be fair game. If she were claiming to be a model, her appearance would be fair game. However, she has not built a reputation on any of these topics, nor does she speak out on them to any significant degree.

Is her so-called "enemies list" fair game? Sure. It's caricature, and it's fooling to think that any politician doesn't keep track of who helps them and who works against them, but any politician should reasonably expect to see mockery over that.
 
Do you really want to go here with me? Really?

IMO, shut down half the embassies we have around the world. Get out of these places where our presence is clearly not wanted. Pull our ambassadors out of these hostile places. GTFO of the Middle East.

You admit that I am no proponent of our runaway and completely unsustainable military spending. However, you are incorrect to assume that while I support drastic cuts in defense that I do not support an overall withdraw of our American Empire. That I somehow desire our presence to still be maintained without security. Sorry sir, but you clearly don't understand where I stand.

I am a huge proponent of American Isolationism. Let Allah sort out the Middle-East. Cut the Dept of Defense in half. Bring it back to sustainable levels. Cut the pork (like jet engines that even the Air Force doesn't want but Jon Boehner's district desires), shutdown some embassies, and no more nation building, PERIOD.

I'm not exactly that cavalier about just pulling out of everywhere, but as long as we are doing evil in pushing the new order of world management on people who might otherwise proceed somehow with their own ideas of "progress", I'm all about ending our perverse fascist "empire". Like Ron Paul, I see no virtue in our government doing almost everything we try to do, considering it all extraneous to the the legitimate functions of protecting my rights as a human being from interests who would trample on them.

I would like to see the values inherent in our original constitution taken up by people around the world, and I'd be inclined to try to help them with dollars out of my own pocket, considering that our Federal government does not have the actual constitutional authority nor the moral/political leadership to send out the troops.

In response to the other comment, I never voted for either of the Bushes, and will never vote for anyone associated with them or promoted by them, like Mitt was. Prescott Bush was the bag man who carried the cash it took to set up Hitler in Germany, and I believe anyone else the Bush family is involved with will prove evil in their deeds. I believe that the "moderate", which generally means the CFR-linked Republicans are a sore curse on every right-thinking person who believes the Republican Party stands for less government or any honorable principle, including those of the original US Constitution.

I appreciate your effort to construct the list of outrages that went down under the Bush administration. I will agree with you that they deserved the thought and attention of Americans just as well. I am of the opinion that the Bush family personal connections with the Bin Ladin family and other fascist elements in the Middle East are a scandal of even greater proportions than Benghazi. The fact that George Bush the younger allowed the Bin Ladin relatives to get on a plane a few days after 9/11 and fly home, when they should have all been detained and investigated, without torture but with every avenue of evidence for involvement in financing the attack. . . . is exhibit one in my argument that people like George Bush in our elite establishment may have also been involved in staging that attack for the purpose of stampeding Americans into accepting the new level of police state powers and compromised personal rights. . . .

yes, indeed, you are right. The Bushes have blood on their hands, too. A lot of it. Thousands of people who have been killed as a direct consequence of their schemes to enlarge statist power over American, as well as thousands of soldiers killed and injured in worthless and fruitless and unconstitutional American military projects abroad for the purpose of imposing fascist governance on other nations.

If we pursue Benghazi with the right kind of intelligence, we will get to the root of all that sooner. It's not just Hillary and Obama who will be discredited, but the entire plan to throw American liberty under the bus to keep the world under the control of schemers who use the whole Machiavellian principle of governance.

The old Aztec "Bowery Wars" with the nobles of warring nations gathered for wine, women, and song in a camoflaged bowery on the hill overlooking the battle are well represented by our politicians of the New World Order today. Fun to run wars and watch the little people fall, fun to split up the spoils of war after the battle is over. . . . While our world elites gather in their little special retreats, their special hotels filled with sex-toy treats, to hatch plans to control and impoverish the masses of mankind. . . ..

The problem I have with most of the non-conservative, non-religious, and most of the socialist-oriented folks around here is not that I don't think conservatives are stupid, or ignorant, or incompetent, or dupes of one kind or another. . . .. no sir. . . . it's that I don't think you see the whole problem with supporting the kind of "progress" we're getting. . . .

I wish I could wake up a few people to the idea of preserving actual human liberty.
 
No, it's not. Mockery of a disadvantaged group, for stereotypical traits that lead to people creating the disadvantage, reinforces the stereotype. This is referred to as "punching down". Mockery of an advantaged group is "punching up". Mockery of people who pretend expertise is always fair, though.

If Clinton claimed to be a fitness guru, constantly preaching about the importance of body weight, her own weight would be fair game. If she claimed to be a fashion mogul, was bringing out a line of clothes, etc., her fashion choices would be fair game. If she were claiming to be a model, her appearance would be fair game. However, she has not built a reputation on any of these topics, nor does she speak out on them to any significant degree.

Is her so-called "enemies list" fair game? Sure. It's caricature, and it's fooling to think that any politician doesn't keep track of who helps them and who works against them, but any politician should reasonably expect to see mockery over that.

It is wrong to discriminate against different types of mockery.
Mockery equality!
Mockery equality!
Mockery equality!
 
give the girl some slack, dude.

Impudence in government has been around for ages. Litle people who dare to mock the honchos of their day usually aren't around for long.

Um, why?

I am all for voicing your opinions, especially when you don't agree with what your government -- local, state, federal -- is doing. But please, for the love of Satan, think before you speak. The reason more people don't speak up is because idiots like Pearl give anyone with a brain reason to not wade into the moron-pool. You can't argue or have an intelligent conversation, you know, to get things accomplished, when one party is clear out in left field and is cherry picking "facts" to back up their bias.

No slack will ever be given for such stupidity. It is my moral obligation.
 
I'll be honest, I've never understood the Right's obsession with Hillary.

The response is grossly disproportionate to anything she's ever actually done. I sometimes wonder if people still believe she ordered the death of Vincent Foster or something.

I decided that she was evil when I saw a report that said she used money that was supposed to go to victims of the Haiti earthquake for her campaign. Even measured against most politicians she is scum. I wish I believed that there was a special place in hell for people like her and Tom Delay.
 
Um, why?

I am all for voicing your opinions, especially when you don't agree with what your government -- local, state, federal -- is doing. But please, for the love of Satan, think before you speak. The reason more people don't speak up is because idiots like Pearl give anyone with a brain reason to not wade into the moron-pool. You can't argue or have an intelligent conversation, you know, to get things accomplished, when one party is clear out in left field and is cherry picking "facts" to back up their bias.

No slack will ever be given for such stupidity. It is my moral obligation.

Giving no slack for stupidity and vows of dedication to moral obligation are generally laudable. But get your facts straight while you're at it. She's not out in "left field", . . .. er. . . .maybe "right field" if you buy the made-up political categorization scheme. . . .

I suppose it could be the labor of a lifetime to reach you or Kicky in some fundamental way that would change your views and ways. It is probably impossible to reach me to alter my path. Even facts are subject to our purposes, and take on a different aspect as we work with them.

Pearl might be just poking at you for fun. But I'm sure that's not really that unusual in this forum . . . .

So here's a place to bring this thread back to the OP subject. Hillary knows how to play the facts for her purposes, which are opposite my purposes. My purpose goes to human liberty.
 
I decided that she was evil when I saw a report that said she used money that was supposed to go to victims of the Haiti earthquake for her campaign. Even measured against most politicians she is scum. I wish I believed that there was a special place in hell for people like her and Tom Delay.

We need a link for this report.

Some folks around her are pretending to be all about "facts".
 
We need a link for this report.

Some folks around her are pretending to be all about "facts".

I googled it and found nothing. I also realized who posted it and decided not to bother.

As for your other post:

Giving no slack for stupidity and vows of dedication to moral obligation are generally laudable. But get your facts straight while you're at it. She's not out in "left field", . . .. er. . . .maybe "right field" if you buy the made-up political categorization scheme. . . .

I suppose it could be the labor of a lifetime to reach you or Kicky in some fundamental way that would change your views and ways. It is probably impossible to reach me to alter my path. Even facts are subject to our purposes, and take on a different aspect as we work with them.

Pearl might be just poking at you for fun. But I'm sure that's not really that unusual in this forum . . . .

So here's a place to bring this thread back to the OP subject. Hillary knows how to play the facts for her purposes, which are opposite my purposes. My purpose goes to human liberty.

I give tons of slack for stupidity and ignorance, because hey, if not for someone giving me a ton of it, I wouldn't be where I am today. Where I refuse to give slack is to someone who is woefully stupid and purposely ignorant of the facts. This isn't a left/right/middle thing, this is just a human/human/human thing. I've had my mind changed on many, many things over the years, so don't be so quick to judge me or Tink about our ideas or what we believe. Most of my political leanings are all over the map, and have been more to one side at one point or another; but that's just it, they change fairly easily depending on what new facts come up, etc.

I love that you're a lone wolf, but the same goes for you, dude. Open your mind a little bit, Ye Olde K-9, and you may discover a few new tricks.
 
We need a link for this report.

Some folks around her are pretending to be all about "facts".

It is admittedly very difficult to perform a google search to reference any specific instance of corruption regarding the Clintons(besides Whitewater and Ms. Lewinski)largely due to the shear number of stories of corruption from reputable news agencies. As much as someone may disagree with the political stances of Barack & Michelle Obama you will not find the same library of reports involving dubious deals, political corruption, and eyebrow raising personal connections. It took me quite a long while to find this story that hints at the original story I heard a few years ago.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/kateandrews/2013/08/14/revealing-nytimes-exposes-clinton-foundation-n1664254
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/us/politics/unease-at-clinton-foundation-over-finances-and-ambitions.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&hp



I googled it and found nothing. I also realized who posted it and decided not to bother.

This seems to be an attack on my personal integrity. I can accept skepticism about my earlier post and indeed praise it, but I see no reason for you to assume that I am dishonest or would purposely mislead anyone.
 
There is a reason that you couldn't find anything, and/or that you only found vague references to the accusation. The fact that you've based your hatred of a person on this pure lack-of-evidence tells me anything and everything I need to know about you. Not an attack on your personal integrity so much as it's another example of the PearlWatson mentality.

The fact that your previously banned alt was the second worst troll this site has ever seen has something to do with my dislike of you as well, but at least this incarnation isn't as bad.
 
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