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Hipster Mormons protest at BYU


back in the day when I decided what college to go to, I had a short-circuited sort of logic. Lessee. . . . . what do I want to rebel against? I figured if I went to BYU I'd be rebelling against a lot of pretty good stuff, but at he "U" I would be rebelling against all the bad stuff.

I set the course for my whole life by going to "U" and developing my talents for rejecting authority and every other stupid reason to believe what I'm told by anyone.
 
back in the day when I decided what college to go to, I had a short-circuited sort of logic. Lessee. . . . . what do I want to rebel against? I figured if I went to BYU I'd be rebelling against a lot of pretty good stuff, but at he "U" I would be rebelling against all the bad stuff.

I set the course for my whole life by going to "U" and developing my talents for rejecting authority and every other stupid reason to believe what I'm told by anyone.

But you probably had a beard, yeah?
 
BEARDS are for MEN

so basically they are saying no men allowed. only children and woman.

**** THIS ****.
when was the last time the good ol USA had a bearded president.

sick and tired of vilinzing beards.

i am gonna shave off my beard and walk with a charlie chaplin mustache
 
But you probably had a beard, yeah?

I tried it once for or maybe six months, but I tell ya, wandering around on the "U" or University of Utah campus with a beard weirded me out. All those wild women giving me the lustful eye. I couldn't focus on the lab research. And I worked in the paternity testing lab, and gossiped with the girls who "met the public" about all those women whose lists of potential fathers ran up past twenty men. . . . men who had sex with them within the possible time range for successful fertilization of oh maybe two weeks.

I tell ya, it's enough to make a man permasober.

all I knew is I didn't wanna be on anybodys' "list".
 
men and beardless biggest oxymoron EVER

this was true perhaps millions of years ago, but some of us developed cognitive capacities and began to exercise more abstract ideals of "manhood" than thumping on our hairy chests or picking nits and lice off our faces. . . .

still, I see the point. . . . organizations with presumed powers of "leadership" based on authoritarian modes have historically made of point of subjecting weaker males to obscene rites of subservience where those dominated males must dispense with some of their god-given glories, like a penis, a six-month winter stink, and some specific natural hair.

I also have succumbed. The lady who cuts my hair makes it seem worth while.
 
The Mormon Church is all about coming down from heaven and having freedom to choose right or wrong. BYU is about control. I don't get this dichotomy.
 
The Mormon Church is all about coming down from heaven and having freedom to choose right or wrong. BYU is about control. I don't get this dichotomy.

We fought the war in heaven on the side of Jesus, against Lucifer. Lucifer said he'd make sure we all did what's right, and exulted that the glory and thanks be to him.

Mormons sneer in disdain at the ignorant Christians who sin in every imaginable way until they, as they tell it, they come to Jesus and lay it all in His hands, and invite "come into my heart, Lord Jesus", and then sing "Jesus paid it all, all to all to Him I owe". Mormons know they are superior to that crawling beggary because they have a leader who in infallible, as long as he is living. If he dies, it all goes out the window, and the next guy is the infallible one, and you're not supposed to quote dead "prophets" in contradistinction to the living one. However, amongst themselves there is a secret oath that no prophet can speak without the consent of the correlation committee, regardless of what God says or doesn't say.

Mormons indeed can be proud they have the mentality of bees, and that they do what they're told by officials. There is no higher level of human intellect attainable. And this is the path that brings everyone to Celestial glory, and we have the correlation committee to thank, and praise, for every step of that perfect path.

The Catholic Church, however, committed apostacy from the pure teachings of Jesus when they invoked the infallibility of the Pope, and vested absolute discretion in the college of cardinals who meet and formulate the teachings and doctrines appropriate to the daily needs of the Church.

I hope you can see the distinctions here, Franklin. Your eternal soul hangs in the balance.

But actually, it would all clear up if you could just quit drinking and restore the fellowship of your soul with your own conscience. You'd see then that the relevant honcho is your own self, your own power to choose your path, just like Jesus taught.

uhhhh. . . . hmmmmm. . . . .

I was once summonsed into the stake presidents' office to be held accountable for my views. the poor fellow exhausted his powers of condemnation without effect, and found his argument totally collapsing with hardly a word a from me. I think I said "No, sir" a few times.

Finally he drew a letter out of his drawer and inferred that he was perhaps breaking a confidence to show it to me. It was from Bruce R. McConkie, one of the most strident authoritarian absolutists in LDS history.

In it, he. . .. Bruce R. McConkie confessed that if there is any discrepancy between the Prophet and the written scriptures, the scriptures prevail. It went on to explain that because so many people are so much inclined to rush to destruction on some half-baked notion or another, the brethren feel there is a need to reduce the complexity of the policies to an extent that will make it less confusingto the marginal members what is right or wrong.

The BYU rules are half public relations and image-making. . . .. which can rightly be criticized as somewhat a vain attempt to project an idolatrous notion of "Saintliness". . . . .

and half parental interdiction. . . . which can rightly be criticized as somewhat a vain attempt to circumvent moths from flying into the flames of self-immolation. . . . .

But all in all, I find the BYU rules refreshingly different from the worldly idolatries of deliberate pretenses on the line of being too damn wise to be prudent or virtuous, and of disregarding every human aspiration towards becoming better in ways we imagine a virtuous and true "God" might direct.

It becomes simply a pragmatic argument when you have kids in that age range, whether you care to have anyone try to help them get a better start in life, avoiding some of the more destructive mistakes of youth. . . . .

put me down on the side of the rules.
 
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@babe I never realized this before (maybe because I totally misunderstood your post in this thread), but I think you and I may be kindred spirits. have you ever read the blog pure Mormonism? If I misunderstood your post, then I apologize for recommending it.
 
I haven't enjoyed the stuff he's written over the last year as much, but the stuff he was writing in 2010-12 really resonated with me.
 
The Mormon Church is all about coming down from heaven and having freedom to choose right or wrong. BYU is about control. I don't get this dichotomy.

There is still a choice there, don't attend BYU. Or shave. Freedom of choice does not equal freedom from rules or consequences.
 
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