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Homeopathic Accident and Emergency First Aid Kit

Once long time ago my little girl had simple bladder infection. Instead of simple antibiotic treatment our family doctor decided to use "all natural" homeopathic remedy. Needless to say we as young parents did not question that decision at that time and in 5 days our 5 year old ended up in hospital for 7 days with nasty pyelonephritis. Good it ended without complications. Since that time homeopathy is outlawed/banned/ignored in my life.
 
Buncha Homeopathiphobes up in this thread.




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I take Xanax for panic attacks and recently my dr is trying to steer me into homeopathics. I am dropping him. A 30 day supply lasts me about 90 days so not like I abuse them and in fact can't imagine why anyone would. Anyways not risking my career on some mystical pill if I feel an attack coming on.
 
There are some good homeopathic products out there. Unfortunately for every one decent product, there are twenty that have absolutely no value. It's the same with a lot of supplements. Best quote I ever heard was that you would just have very expensive piss because once your body has x amount of certain nutrients, the rest are just expelled.

A lot of this is "mental" as well. If you take something expecting to feel better or perform better, chances are you will. And then you will attribute that feeling/performance to the product instead of just the mental boost and confidence you got from EXPECTING to do better.

On that topic, anyone ever try the performace bracelets that have been so popular and so hyped by many athletes?
 
Core4 said:
There are some good homeopathic products out there.
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What do you mean by "homeopathic"? To me, it means the product has been diluted to the point where you have nothing but water left, and this water is supposedly "potentiated", "energized", or some other claptrap. There are no good products of this type.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
One Brow said:
Yes, I do hate parasites that sponge money off the desperate and credible to their medical detriment.
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I also hate people with Masters in mathematics degrees acting like they're medical professionals and modern-day prophets, as they tend to compose emotionally-charged blanket generalizations-- resulting in calling every practicing homeopath a parasite.


As usual, your ideas tend to be rooted in empirical truth, but your delivery is of the lowest of grades, OB. Hopefully you'll learn some-day (which isn't far-fetched, for one who claims to be as truth-seeking as yourself).
 
One Brow said:
What do you mean by "homeopathic"? To me, it means the product has been diluted to the point where you have nothing but water left, and this water is supposedly "potentiated", "energized", or some other claptrap. There are no good products of this type.
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Not true. You may brush this aside as being purely anecdotal, but I was able to cure some (admittedly mild) dehydration by orally applying 10 or 12 of these capsules.
 
Vermin said:
I take Xanax for panic attacks and recently my dr is trying to steer me into homeopathics. I am dropping him. A 30 day supply lasts me about 90 days so not like I abuse them and in fact can't imagine why anyone would. Anyways not risking my career on some mystical pill if I feel an attack coming on.
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How often do you exercise?

AKMVP said:
Yup, placebo effect.
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This reminds of a podcast episode from Science Fridays I recently listened to. It ties in perfectly with what you guys are talking about:

https://www.sciencefriday.com/segment/01/10/2014/migraine-study-reveals-the-power-of-placebo.html
 
ElRoach0 said:
Homeopathic is also known as "doesn't work".


The more you know
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Not true at all. One of the problems with "homeopathic" products is they have not been subjected to strict scientific studies. As long as the disclaimer is read/printed that "these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA" most anything can be claimed. There should be more regulation on these products: at least have them pass a double blind test and show some possibility of being effective. Because there are some good products out there. But the plethora of bad ones give the category a bad reputation.
 
The bulk make the stereotype. There's oft truth behind many, but only a small grain

For my money, homeopathic is like a quarter step above Faith healing.
 
dalamon said:
I also hate people with Masters in mathematics degrees acting like they're medical professionals and modern-day prophets, as they tend to compose emotionally-charged blanket generalizations-- resulting in calling every practicing homeopath a parasite.


As usual, your ideas tend to be rooted in empirical truth, but your delivery is of the lowest of grades, OB. Hopefully you'll learn some-day (which isn't far-fetched, for one who claims to be as truth-seeking as yourself).
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They are parasites. They offer nothing of value over a placebo. There are homeopaths who earnestly believe in the effectiveness of their treatments, who want nothing more than to help others while making a modest living, who have motives similar to any doctor. They are unwitting parasites, but parasites nonetheless.

However, I do really appreciate your tone-trolling. Hopefully, one day you'll learn that, just as we need those who speak softly and and gently, we also need those who speak loudly and harshly.
 
Core4 said:
Not true at all. One of the problems with "homeopathic" products is they have not been subjected to strict scientific studies. As long as the disclaimer is read/printed that "these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA" most anything can be claimed. There should be more regulation on these products: at least have them pass a double blind test and show some possibility of being effective. Because there are some good products out there. But the plethora of bad ones give the category a bad reputation.
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Many types of homeopathic preparations have been subjected to double-blind studies, they pass them as often as you would expect them randomly (the green-jelly-bean effect).

They get around it today by making unspecific claims and displaying some form of the "quack miranda" warning on their products.
 
One Brow said:
They are unwitting parasites, but parasites nonetheless.
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Seeing as this statement could be applied to thousands of occupations-- to mankind even-- it weakens the scope of your argument considerably, and I have no reason to continue discussion.

However, I do really appreciate your tone-trolling. Hopefully, one day you'll learn that, just as we need those who speak softly and and gently, we also need those who speak loudly and harshly.
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Seeing as your harsh, alienating delivery hasn't really garnered a large OB-following in a forum with 2000< posters, I see no reason why it could work in the real world. I'll keep doin me, and you do you.
 
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