Honeymoon

[Archie Moses]

ok, then!

well I sure hope my son & his fiancee don't share those sentiments!

When are you getting married by the way?
How about Vancouver and Victoria, BC? Both are really great places, relaxing and beautiful but with lots to see and do.

August 7th. BTW, I didn't mean to sound like a hack in that last post. I just reread it and it sounded kinda rude. His wife loved Disney World and he didn't, but went anyways. I guess the fact that he doesn't really fit on any of the rides probably played a huge role on why he didn't like it, and he's divorced now. haha

 

[moevillini]

August 7th. BTW, I didn't mean to sound like a hack in that last post. I just reread it and it sounded kinda rude. His wife loved Disney World and he didn't, but went anyways. I guess the fact that he doesn't really fit on any of the rides probably played a huge role on why he didn't like it, and he's divorced now. haha

not a problem, some people just hate WDW, though in part I think it depends on where you stay and what your expectations are.

At any rate, you seriously should look into Vancouver & Victoria, that'd be a great time of the year to visit, and you might even catch the Northern Lights! It's probably not a typical "honeymoon" type of spot, though.

 

[sirkickyass]

August 7th.

Wow, didn't you just get engaged?

I mean, not to accuse you or anything, but when my friends have had extremely short engagements planned I immediately start making jokes about maternity wedding dresses.

Course, then again I'm the guy who's only half-joking about a five year long pre-nup process.

 

[Gameface]

ok, then!

well I sure hope my son & his fiancee don't share those sentiments!

When are you getting married by the way?
How about Vancouver and Victoria, BC? Both are really great places, relaxing and beautiful but with lots to see and do.

Victoria was the first port I visited while in the Navy. It is a beautiful place, very clean, very scenic. Lot's to do, but not too busy. I didn't make it over to the mainland, but Vancouver is a big city and I'm sure it'd be a blast too.

Being a sailor at the time I of course spent most my time in the strip club or at a bar, but as far as I could tell there were other things I could have been doing if I had wanted to.

I keep telling my wife we'll take a road trip up that way sometime. It really does suck that everyplace I visited while in the Navy I had to be with squids the whole time. It would have had so much more fun if my wife could have been there.

 

[JazzGal]

Based on the experiences of people I know, here are the Don'ts of honeymoon planning:

1. Don't drive somewhere very far away unless you have a fairly long honeymoon planned. You end up feeling rushed to get there, and who needs to feel rushed on their honeymoon?

2. Don't go somewhere that you may never visit again, or that has a lot of things to do and see. You'll feel like you should see everything while there - and you won't.

3. Some people really like cruises for honeymoons just because you don't have to do anything but relax. If there might be any motion sickness issues, however, that would really ruin a good time.

A lot of people I know have had great success with going somewhere relatively close and just spending time which each other instead of the area. They then take a more exotic trip for their first year anniversary.

Congrats on the engagement.

Kicky, you have to remember that Mormons tend to not have long engagements for reasons that typically don't apply to most of the rest of the population these days.

 

[Gameface]

Based on the experiences of people I know, here are the Don'ts of honeymoon planning:


Kicky, you have to remember that Mormons tend to not have long engagements for reasons that typically don't apply to most of the rest of the population these days.

I'm not trying to be offensive here, just making an observation. I've noticed that for young folks who have a firm belief in abstenance before marriage (not only LDS kids) there is a certain urgency to get married once the decision is made.

 

[bigb]

Nothing, dude. I still think you're a cool guy. You just give me a lot of ****. I hope you weren't offended cause I said it jokingly.

What's there to be offended about? I have a dickeydo. Not a lot I can do to hide it, either.
And to contribute to this thread, Mrs. bigb and I went to Jackson Hole for our honeymoon. It's a place that's not too far away and you can drive to. It's beautiful with plenty of stuff to do. It's within driving distance of Yellowstone, so you can spend a day or two there. Be prepared to spend some cheddar if you go there though. I don't know if I would recommend it. Looking back, we both wish we would have gone somewhere else (mainly because we'd gone there before on vacation with my family).
I've heard a lot of people recommend cruises because you really don't have anything to do except relax and lounge around.

 

[beantastic]

The Mrs. and I went to Daytona beach in Florida spent a week relaxing on the beach and seeing a few sites. We really enjoyed it because it is not some where we could easily go so we figured we should take advantage of the opportunity. We Saw a space shuttle launch from the Space Center and went to the Daytona International Speedway, and saw a light house. Other than those three thing we just hung out around our resort so did not stretch ourselves too thin. Also another suggestion I have is to get married on a Thursday leave either that night or early Friday then you can take a week on your honeymoon and then come back and have 2 days to unpack your stuff open your presents etc... At least that is how we did it and we loved it.

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

1/2 hour? Come on, you're giving him WAY too much credit.

C'mon you have to give time for the disappointment/cleanse shower and the rocking fetal position with high probability of crying.

But seriously I went to Vegas for mine I'd been a lot but she hadn't and so she wanted to go and I thought it would be cheesy but it was fun, spent money on some shows I wouldn't normally, picking a hotel is key since a majority of everything is within walking distance and heck just walking the strip and didn't gamble or drink at all and still had a lot of fun. Oh side note plus if she gets tired of walking you can use that as "quality time" back in the room.

 

[Deleted member 95]

C'mon you have to give time for the disappointment/cleanse shower and the rocking fetal position with high probability of crying.

LOL, I could not imagine waiting til marriage to have sex. The horror.

*edit* okay I decided not to Archie this thread. Proceed.

Marcus
Save your money and stick close to home. I have found over the years that the biggest deal about going on vacation with your wife is simply getting away from the daily grind. We have spent time alone in Hawaii, St. George, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara & Park City. By far my favorite was Park City. Yeah, yeah. Not very exotic, I know. But guess what? I was more relaxed and had more fun than any of the other locales. There was no rush to see as many sights as we could see. There was no fret over how much money was being spent. When we did go out I was familiar with the restaurants and customs which added to my comfort level. Best week I've ever spent on vacation with my wife. 50 miles from home.

Besides, you plan on staying in your room and having sex for a week. Why waste a week in hotel room in Hawaii?? You could do that in Provo. Save Hawaii for your 20th anniversary when you can no longer stand her.

My parents went somewhere close proximity to where they lived at the time and loved it. They then went to Hawaii for their 1st anniversary. They were very happy with the decision. Sound advice Archie.

 

[moevillini]

you will, of course, let us know what you decide, right archie? all pertinent trip details - - flight numbers, hotel names and addresses, dinner reservations and so on...
inquiring minds might want to know....

just kidding, of course...
congratulations by the way


My thoughts on O>D's comments - any marriage can have problems, or really, just any type of relationship. Personally, I think responsible pre-marital sex is OK - as is living together before marriage, as long as both parties are clear about their long-term intentions (or at least clear about their indecisiveness towards long-term intentions)

 

[Deleted member 95]

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[Duck Rodgers]

Archie, did you forget that you're 6'5"? I don't know that making love in one of those cruise cabins is going to be your best option. I can barely sleep alone in those suckas.

 

[YB85]

We went to Disney World and had no problems with the "romantic" aspect. Then again, we were three years into a relationship so the romance was not as important as the memories. The ****ing humidity was bad, though. Going from Utah to Orlando in August was harsh. But it makes for good sweaty, um, cuddling.

 

[Scat]

Based on the experiences of people I know, here are the Don'ts of honeymoon planning:

1. Don't drive somewhere very far away unless you have a fairly long honeymoon planned. You end up feeling rushed to get there, and who needs to feel rushed on their honeymoon?

2. Don't go somewhere that you may never visit again, or that has a lot of things to do and see. You'll feel like you should see everything while there - and you won't.

3. Some people really like cruises for honeymoons just because you don't have to do anything but relax. If there might be any motion sickness issues, however, that would really ruin a good time.

A lot of people I know have had great success with going somewhere relatively close and just spending time which each other instead of the area. They then take a more exotic trip for their first year anniversary.

Congrats on the engagement.

Kicky, you have to remember that Mormons tend to not have long engagements for reasons that typically don't apply to most of the rest of the population these days.

Wow, this sounds very much like a post earlier in the thread.

 

[Archie Moses]

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I was going to answer your questions. I thought they were good. This is a discussion forum, just cause things go off topic, doesn't mean it sucks. How many times a day does your conversations go off topic? If you want, re-post your questions and I'll answer them the best I can.

 

[Deleted member 95]

*edit*I claim I was drunk. And I just ****ed a fat chick, so I was extremely depressed.

 

[YB85]

I admire those who abstain before marriage. I don't understand it, but I admire it. Anyone who can take the chance that their lifetime commitment will be perfectly cooked filet mignon rather than a cold, stale **** sandwich with a hair in it deserves admiration. Because that **** sandwich might taste like filet mignon at first when you've spent a liftetime craving and wondering. Then one day, you realize, no, it's just a **** sandwich and it does have a hair in it.

Bon appetit.

 

[Beantown]

My wife and I went to Cancun as well. It was tons of fun, we stayed at an all inclusive hotel that had five restuarants and a fridge in our room that was always packed with goodies all the time. It was also a no tipping resort. It had like 5 pools and was right on the beach where you could get as many 'virgin" drinks as you want. I would suggest this. Look into Frontier airlines they have a direct flight from SLC to Cancun.

 

[Archie Moses]

Archie or anybody, what are your thoughts on kids that get married young (18-24~) due to religious views?

Adults can make those decisions. I have no problem with what other people do if they feel that is the right choice. However, I do think there are tons of clowns who get married and don't realize the significance of what they are doing. It makes marriages look really bad.

Do you think it's possible to truly or even slightly know and love the person they are getting married too at that age(for the majority, I know they're are exceptions)?

Of course it is, just like it's possible that they truly aren't in love. My football coach in high school, who is currently Lehi High's head wrestling coach got engaged after one week of meeting his wife. They got married shortly after. He simply said he did it because he was in love. They've had an awesome marriage ever since.

A lot of strong members of religion get engaged within a few months of knowing someone, than the marriage ceremony soon follows. Because they've only known their soon to be spouse for a small amount of time, what do you think is the probability of it just being lust and they're just horny kids and they mistake that for actual love?

Again, of course. Just like there are possibilities that they are getting married because they truly love each other. There are also tons of people in the world who get married for a lot of other wrong reasons like money, status, pressure, knocking someone up etc.

Do you think kids getting married just for sex is, what seems like an unnoticed or unacknowledged(imo), issue in religions like the LDS church? Couldn't getting married young without truly knowing the person create an abundance of issues down the road especially when the church you believe in is strongly against divorce. Shouldn't they be concerned that people are getting married at this age and barely even knowing the other person? Why doesn't it seem to be addressed?

Trust me, it's stressed very much in the LDS religion. There are interviews, classes, and General Conferences that beat those issues to death. Seems like you just have a mislead opinion.

Sorry, I really didn't mean to archie this thread Archie, but I have friends who are in the LDS church who got married young and it's created a lot of painful issues in their lives.

Yes, a lot of LDS people get married and married young, but I know a ton of non-LDS people here in Utah that get married young and have painful issues as well. I'll be 27 in October, btw.

Overall, the Mormon divorce rate appears to be no different from the average American divorce rate. A 1999 study by Barna Research of nearly 4,000 U.S. adults showed that 24% of Mormon marriages end in divorce -- a number statistically equal to the divorce rate among all Americans

It seems like leaders of your church(or any like I said above) are happy when girls who are right out of high school and boys right off their missions get married within months of knowing each other.

Are leaders are happy when people get married? Sure. I think there are people that get married too young, but then again, I don't think it's my place to say. If someone is 18 and wants to get married, that's their choice. I have a lot of very close friends that got married right after the mission, and only one of them got divorced, the rest have happy marriages. The church's basic teachings are family, and putting others first. I believe that if people love each other, and put their partner first, then they have good chances of having a successful marriage. With that being said, there are tons of people, both mormon and non-mormon who don't do that and get married for the wrong reasons.

I just don't see how that can be a good thing.

Letting adults make decisions?

It just seems like sex outside of marriage is made out to be a disastrous thing yet something as big as marriage is a no biggie (it terms of being ready).

It's not so much that sex outside of marriage is a disastrous thing, mormons just consider sex to be a sacred thing. Marriage however is stressed over and over again as being the biggest and most important decision one can make, or at least how I've been taught. I don't know where you are getting "is made out to be no biggie" from.


Also, on a side note. Just cause I'm getting married doesn't mean I'm getting married in the temple and that I've practiced abstinence, and I'm not saying I'm not. I just wanted some ideas about a good honeymoon location.