Hood is more important than you think

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Yeah, this dimension of his game and his ball handling should come in handy. I like Burks as the first wing off the bench.

Actually I think the team is better with Hood as the Hayward role off the bench. Let Hayward operate getting Burks some great looks. In the first unit


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[seattlejazzfan]

Hard to say that after watching GS completely troll the league with their Curry/Thompson/Iggy/Barnes/Green lineup.

Hayward/Burks/Hood is a great foundation of young wings, but adding someone like Stanley Johnson who can theoretically offer 3/4 flexibility would be very appealing; that's the current trend of the NBA, and it's only going to magnify after GS actually won with it.

You mention Curry, Thompson, Iggy, Barnes and Green, but the Jazz can go Exum, Burks, Hood, Hayward, Booker. They don't need another wing unless, he's really good and I'm just not impressed enough with anybody besides Booker.

But let's face it, too much is being made of GS's small ball. That lineup works because they are really good players, not because they are small. The Jazz need to get better, not smaller. I don't think anther mediocre wing who won't be as good as Hood anyway, makes them better.

 

[stormkoopacv03]

Hood would make a pretty good sixth man for the Jazz and then win that award. He provides spark and instant offense to keep the team rolling while Burks is a starter.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I love Burks and Hood, but I'm a greedy SOB. I want DeMarre Carroll back, and I'd start him and Hayward over both of them. Then I'd roll out a second unit that featured Booker, Jingles, Hood and Burks. Give me a big man from their lottery pick and THAT'S a lineup that has some serious potential. Last year's bench started out the season abysmal, but got better as the year progressed. A healthy Burks and Hood would make for a fun 6th man of the year battle.

 

[stormkoopacv03]

I love Burks and Hood, but I'm a greedy SOB. I want DeMarre Carroll back, and I'd start him and Hayward over both of them. Then I'd roll out a second unit that featured Booker, Jingles, Hood and Burks. Give me a big man from their lottery pick and THAT'S a lineup that has some serious potential. Last year's bench started out the season abysmal, but got better as the year progressed. A healthy Burks and Hood would make for a fun 6th man of the year battle.

Hey, I like that idea. But the only question is, how much $ will it take to get the Junkyard dog back?

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Smells like cake up in this bitch.

 

[♪alt13]

You mention Curry, Thompson, Iggy, Barnes and Green, but the Jazz can go Exum, Burks, Hood, Hayward, Booker. They don't need another wing unless, he's really good and I'm just not impressed enough with anybody besides Booker.

But let's face it, too much is being made of GS's small ball. That lineup works because they are really good players, not because they are small. The Jazz need to get better, not smaller. I don't think anther mediocre wing who won't be as good as Hood anyway, makes them better.

You must expand your definition of wing imo. To guys that play on the wing not just guys that have a certain body type.

It isn't just Golden state. The Spurs are also wing heavy. Other than Duncan/Splitter they don't really have traditional 4's or 5's. They have guys that play on the wing. Leonard, Ginobli, Green, Diaw, Belinelli, all those guys play on the wing.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Hey, I like that idea. But the only question is, how much $ will it take to get the Junkyard dog back?

More than it would have if we'd just kept him in the first place, but I think it would be worth it. His reported demands are in the range of 4 years, $50 million. At 28 years old and coming off two years of exponential improvement. . . I'd give him a contract similar to the one Iguadola got from Golden State. 4 years, $48 million. Not nearly a max, but a great payday and a starting job from an ascending team with a coach and franchise that he's fond of. To me, it fits. Then Burks and Hood highlight the bench.

I also like that you can mix and match ANY combination of Carroll, Hayward, Jingles, Hood and either Burks or Exum at the 2/3 spots to take advantage of favorable situations. It seems like a very Spurs-esque group of players.

 

[fishonjazz]

Hi FT% was mid 70's, like 76 or 77%

Oh my bad, I thought it was like 67 or some ****

 

[gregbroncs]

My point is u can't be going between 1&2 if he's going to learn the position. Pg isn't a spot that u can learn over night if it's not ur natural position and I don't want him playing any backup pg if he isn't going to fully commit to it.


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I don't think that's the case with this system though. They are not really using a traditional ball dominant PG. Therefore I believe a guy can play more as a 1/2 than in other systems.

 

[NAOS]

Hood's playmaking makes Trey even more expendable. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the following lineup:

Hood
Hayward
Carroll
STANLEY JOHNSON
Favors/Gobert

SWITCH EVERYTHING

(not a suggested starting lineup)

 

[gregbroncs]

Hood's playmaking makes Trey even more expendable. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the following lineup:

Hood
Hayward
Carroll
STANLEY JOHNSON
Favors/Gobert

SWITCH EVERYTHING

(not a suggested starting lineup)

Can you imagine countering small ball with this lineup? switch everything, a big guy to help with PNR, and enough offense to keep the other team honest.

 

[CALJAZZFAN]

Burks shot 38.2% from 3 last year before going out for the season. What more do you want?

And career-wise he's a 35.6% 3 pt shooter. Pretty respectable.

My post was controversial enough that Colton replied? To what do I owe this, sir? Jokes aside, good point. I guess it's his form and his attempts. A career .5 threes per game isn't going to do much. Let's give him a chance this year and perhaps he will prove me wrong. Hood is the better shooter, that's never going to change and I think he's got a better all round game. Just my opinion.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Hood's playmaking makes Trey even more expendable. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the following lineup:

Hood
Hayward
Carroll
STANLEY JOHNSON
Favors/Gobert

SWITCH EVERYTHING

(not a suggested starting lineup)

Can you imagine countering small ball with this lineup? switch everything, a big guy to help with PNR, and enough offense to keep the other team honest.

I like it but the following would be more effective maybe.

Exum
Hood
Hayward
Favors
Gobert

Fight for 6th man
Burks
S. Johnson

Then if anyone is having a bad night, pull them and plug in one of the next 2.

 

[Doublea]

Did someone say Burks is overrated?

 

[Jazz4ever]

Hood reminds me of Jimmy Butler when it comes to work ethic. Butler spent the entire last summer in the gym and went from a defensive role player to near franchise level player.
It was the most improvement I have ever seen in a player.

 

[Batman]

Just wanted to get that out there. Hood is going to be stronger and more valuable than most people think, imo. I can see him being the shooter/scorer we need while also providing solid D and even decent play-making ability. I have said it before, but my comp for him is Alan Houston. I think Hood has a very similar game to Houston. I very much look forward to what he will bring in his 2nd season.

Here are some interesting numbers from Rodney's last half of the season.

After he came back from his injury he averaged 12 pts, 2.2 boards and 2.1 assts with 1 steal in 24 mpg on 46% from the field and 42% from 3.

For his last 17 games, when he really started to take off, he averaged 14 pts, 2.5 reb, 2.5 ast, 1 steal in 27 mpg on 47% FG/40% 3PT.

That puts him at 19 PPG per 36. Along with over 3 asts and rebs per game, and 1.3 steals, at a 40% clip from 3 and nearly 50% FG. And that is his rookie year. This kid will do nothing but get better and better. I am so excited to see what a season without injury (hope and pray) and with solid minutes (say 30 per) will do for him. I think within a few years he will surpass Hayward as our top player, and might already be better than Burks, especially with his defensive effort and how effortlessly he seemed to put things together. Can't wait for the season to start!



EDIT: I took out his obvious "rookie" games, when he scored under 5 pts, which by the way were only 5 of his last 30 or so, and got this for averages:

After injury: 14 pts, 2.1 rebs, 2.3 asts, 1 st, 49% FG, 45% 3PT
Last 16 games: 15 pts, 2.4 rebs, 2.6 asts, 1 st, 48% FG, 42% 3PT

And per 36

After injury: 20 pts, 3.4 rebs, 2.9 asts, 1.2 st
Last 16: 20 pts, 3.4 rebs, 3.2 asts, 1.4 st


One more EDIT: Alan Houston

Here is the stat line for Houston in 2000-2001 when he played 78 games and averaged 36.6 MPG, and made the all-star team:

18 pts, 3.6 rpg, 2.2 apg, .8 st
45% FG, 38% 3PT

I can completely see Hood surpassing this.

Compare Hood and Houston rookie seasons

AH - 79 games, 19 MPG, 8.5 PPG, 1.5 RPG, 1.3 APG, 0.4 SPG, 40.5% FG, 30% 3PT, 82% FT
RH - 50 games, 21 MPG, 8.7 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 2.3 APG, 0.6 SPG, 41.4% FG, 37% 3PT, 76% FT

How old was Houston in his rookie year though? That likely plays a huge factor.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Or... Dl, pls just snag whoever you want because you are smarter than all of us combined. We trust you.

Not always true, though. Every GM makes mistakes, and every mistake is called out by somebody when it happens. If not for Rudy, DL would be on the hot seat after trading up for Trey.

 

[karl malone]

Still can't believe we got him at #23. Love his game & think he could be that 5th starter alongside Exum, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert. He also makes me a little more comfortable with the fact that Hayward can opt-out in 2 years. I still have some concerns regarding injuries so I'm not completely comfortable with relying on him to be our 5th starter, which is why I would still prefer to replace Burks in our core of players. This isn't because I don't like Burks' game, it's because I don't think he is a good fit along with Exum, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert (due to the fact that he needs the ball in his hands &, while improving, will likely never be a high volume, high percentage 3 pt shooter), which will always limit him to a bench role on this team. Preferably, we would replace him with someone who can play both the 1 & 2, as insurance for Exum & Hood (Russell), but since that type of high-level prospect is likely out of our range in this draft, I think it makes most sense to double down on Hood (as insurance for him, as well as Hayward potentially leaving) by replacing Burks with a prospect who brings similar qualities as Hood (shooting, play-making, & above avg defense- Hezonja). This would allow for Hood & Hezonja to compete for that 5th starter spot, while allowing for whoever doesn't start to act as our 6th man. I like Burks a lot, but if we're going to become legitimate championship contenders, I think we need at least 1 more potential impact starter. I'd prefer to keep Burks while adding a prospect such as Hezonja, but I don't see how we would be able to give all of out wings enough minutes without playing Burks at PG &/or parting with 1 or both of Ingles/Millsap.

 

[cowhide]

I haven't scoured the Jazz board as extensively as I do during the season, but I think everyone values Hood as a major cog of this team's future. After he kicked his injuries and got into the flow, he was phenomenal at the end of the season. I think all Jazz fans were ecstatic with him where we drafted him, then we got really excited after his summer league performance. Between Hayward, Burks and Hood we have a great starting point for some excellent depth/versatility on the wings! If we get a PG who can consistently put pressure on the opposition with their offense, then watch out!

For some crazy reason, several Jazz fans keep putting him in trades to move up. The Jazz found two steals with Hood and Gobert. I wouldn't trade either right now. I would just add some more talent to the bench and then give these guys a few more years and then watch out.