Hood traded to Cleveland for Crowder; Johnson to Sacramento

[Handlogten's Heros]

First prediction... Mirotic was a rental. He will be expendable when Boogie comes back. Burks plus a second for Mirotic in the summer?

Next, DL is a class act. Nuff said.

I kind of want the Jazz to trade me so that DL can go on about how great I am. Feel like it would be a big boost to my confidence.

 

[infection]

the Burks detail is mostly unimportant. The takeaway is that they'll need to cut money hard and fast.... and that there aint no way they're paying Boogie and Mirotic.

Mirotic expires. Boogie won’t return to full health immediately. They won’t be near the LT.

 

[NAOS]

Mirotic expires. Boogie won’t return to full health immediately. They won’t be near the LT.

Mirotic's option was picked up. He's paid through the end of next year; and, as of today, NOLA is on-the-hook for the full amount. Boogie expires. And all reports indicate that re-signing him is a top priority.

 

[infection]

Mirotic's option was picked up. He's paid through the end of next year; and, as of today, NOLA is on-the-hook for the full amount. Boogie expires. And all reports indicate that re-signing him is a top priority.

I was talking about next year. They’re not near LT resigning Boogie.

 

[NAOS]

I was talking about next year. They’re not near LT resigning Boogie.

You're alleging that if they re-sign Boogie, have Mirotic and AD on the books, plus Holiday, plus Hill and all their other crap, that they aren't going to have money problems?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

the Burks detail is mostly unimportant. The takeaway is that they'll need to cut money hard and fast.... and that there aint no way they're paying Boogie and Mirotic.

Two situations to watch... Denver and NO. Denver is staring down the barrel of a $40M plus LT bill next year. They have assets to move money and chose not to do it at the deadline... It will only get harder now. On draft night I could see us doing a deal including our unguranteed guys for Wilson Chandler and their pick. Chandler has struggled, but I think as a bench scorer he could come in and be really good for us. Would save them almost $50M. Part of this depends on what they do with Will Barton.

The other situation in NO... same deal, but we could get Niko with just the unguaranteed guys. We could start him or use him off the bench. We maintain flexibility for 2019 and get some of the offensive production off the bench that we need and will miss without Hood.

I assume Crowder starts for us next year at the four. Jerebko has been good in our system... I think Crowder would be better. Bringing the more offensively inclined PF option off the bench with our other guys that struggle to create would be gold.

In FA this year look for us to do the same thing we did this year. Buy low on 2 year guys and get the option on the second year. Use the MLE on guys like Seth Curry, Joe Harris, Mario Hezonja, Pat Connaughton and pay a little more for the flexibility. Or if guys like KCP, Will Barton, Tyreke Evans, Maybe Slow Mo Anderson become available for the full MLE for 4 years go ahead and do that. We end up having 30-50M in space depending on what we do with Ricky, Dante, and our MLE.

I like what the trade did for our flexibility if Crowder becomes a contributor.

 

[NAOS]

and, btw, I know that if they resign Boogie, they won't be in the same money pit. Because if Boogie is resigned, then he no longer plays for them. Right?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I was talking about next year. They’re not near LT resigning Boogie.

Oh yes they are... will be about $10M into it at least after filling out their roster with minimum deals... Will cost them $15 - 20M.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

and, btw, I know that if they resign Boogie, they won't be in the same money pit. Because if Boogie is resigned, then he no longer plays for them. Right?

I believe that is how it works, but we might look into playing guys that we don't have under contract... big potential loophole we could exploit.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

It would be hilarious if Hood couldn't pass his physical lol

 

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I've heard about Crowder coming to camp this year out of shape. Somewhat understandable in the circumstances(his mother passed away during the summer). If he's still out of shape the Jazz should do what BKN did with Okafor - sideline him and work on his general fitness and conditioning until it's up to par and then ease him back into play. The timing for this is a bit tricky though since the players have 1 week rest around the all star break.

 

[infection]

Oh yes they are... will be about $10M into it at least after filling out their roster with minimum deals... Will cost them $15 - 20M.

I guess it depends at what we think Boogie will be back at. They’re at $96M without Boogie. I’m guessing Boogie gets about $20-25. Isn’t LT at $130?

 

[enchilada_style]

I've heard about Crowder coming to camp this year out of shape. Somewhat understandable in the circumstances(his mother passed away during the summer). If he's still out of shape the Jazz should do what BKN did with Okafor - sideline him and work on his general fitness and conditioning until it's up to par and then ease him back into play. The timing for this is a bit tricky though since the players have 1 week rest around the all star break.

I'm guessing he has probably worked himself into adequate shape over the season. Okafor never played so it made sense to give him some time for conditioning.

 

[enchilada_style]

Looks at those hamstrings

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I guess it depends at what we think Boogie will be back at. They’re at $96M without Boogie. I’m guessing Boogie gets about $20-25. Isn’t LT at $130?

He will get the max which is $30M... or close to it to stay there... LT is at 121M. They also have to fill out the roster so 4 or 5 guys at a minimum of 1.5M so looking at $130-135M. They can stretch Ajinca but they would also likely replace his roster spot so they save a couple million maybe.

There was a reason they wanted the option... If we send our non-guaranteeds on draft night (thabo and Jerebko) they clear the 12.5 and may keep Jerebko - his guarantee date is 7/9 Thabo's is 7/1. Shaving $8m is quite helpful for them. They will need to get good minimum dudes because those guys will actually be in the rotation.

I think Dallas, Phoenix, and LA would likely offer Boogie very close to the max. Unless they decide to move Davis because they miss the playoffs this year they are in between a rock and a hard place.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Jae just watching the best player he's ever played with warm up... learning from the best.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I've heard about Crowder coming to camp this year out of shape. Somewhat understandable in the circumstances(his mother passed away during the summer). If he's still out of shape the Jazz should do what BKN did with Okafor - sideline him and work on his general fitness and conditioning until it's up to par and then ease him back into play. The timing for this is a bit tricky though since the players have 1 week rest around the all star break.

He was playing better and I think he is likely close to being in good enough shape. Get him a couple games before all star break so he can use that time to get more acclimated to the system.

Dude had a **** offseason... I think the change may give him a clean slate without the whole world looking over his shoulder. The cleveland thing sounded toxic... I think he likely aligned himself with IT because of familiarity and got isolated because of his association there.

If he has the right attitude he will be a great fit and is the ******* we've missed since Booker left. Ingles is a MFer, but it is more subtle. Jae will straight boop your nose.

 

[infection]

He will get the max which is $30M... or close to it to stay there... LT is at 121M. They also have to fill out the roster so 4 or 5 guys at a minimum of 1.5M so looking at $130-135M. They can stretch Ajinca but they would also likely replace his roster spot so they save a couple million maybe.

There was a reason they wanted the option... If we send our non-guaranteeds on draft night (thabo and Jerebko) they clear the 12.5 and may keep Jerebko - his guarantee date is 7/9 Thabo's is 7/1. Shaving $8m is quite helpful for them. They will need to get good minimum dudes because those guys will actually be in the rotation.

I think Dallas, Phoenix, and LA would likely offer Boogie very close to the max. Unless they decide to move Davis because they miss the playoffs this year they are in between a rock and a hard place.

$121? I thought it was $130. Anyway, I think given his size and injury that more than $25 is a lot and I’d honestly wonder if NO would burn it down and trade Davis for all those Boston picks (and hopefully Hayward) before they’d bring back Boogie off a major injury. In that case they keep Mirotic. It would suck to lose out on Mirotic (again) but if Hayward winds up in a Davis and Boogie-less New Orleans it’s a respectable consolation prize.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

$121? I thought it was $130. Anyway, I think given his size and injury that more than $25 is a lot and I’d honestly wonder if NO would burn it down and trade Davis for all those Boston picks (and hopefully Hayward) before they’d bring back Boogie off a major injury. In that case they keep Mirotic. It would suck to lose out on Mirotic (again) but if Hayward winds up in a Davis and Boogie-less New Orleans it’s a respectable consolation prize.

That would make me so happy especially because the Brow wouldn't stay healthy and would screw Boston over... they'd also look like frauds and huge aholes after doing both IT and Hayward dirty.

NO situation bears watching... no guarantees... if they make the playoffs and the owner doesn't fire Demps they will absolutely keep Boogie at more than they should. If Demps gets fired I think they go rebuild.