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Chris Sheridan of Sheridanhoops.com: My gut feeling: We will have a settlement of the NBA lockout within 36 hours. Why? Because, folks, they are 99 percent of the way there. (You don’t pile all of the kids into the station wagon, tell them you are driving to DisneyWorld and then stop in the outskirts of Orlando and say you are turning around.) The owners are at 50 percent on the revenue split. The players are at 51 — or ” fifty plus one” as they put it when talks broke off Saturday night, with that extra 1 percent representing $40 million that would be earmarked for improved pensions for both current and retired players. If David Stern throws them some crumbs — say $20 million for improved benefits, plus a few tweaks to the system changes that players find so objectionable — they are 99.9 percent of the way there. I said all this on the radio yesterday, and I feel as strongly about it today as I did then. Player reps from the 30 NBA teams have a 1 p.m. EST meeting scheduled today in Manhattan, and the smart money says they’ll emerge asking for one more meeting with the owners to try to move to a place just a little more palatable. Stern has nothing to lose by taking the meeting, everything to gain by taking it and sprinkling a few crumbs toward the players. And if the players emerge from a bargaining sessions saying they are now prepared to put the offer up for a vote, voila! The season will start in the second week of December. Yes, it’s that easy. There was always going to be an endgame in this fight, and it has arrived. There was always a secret watch in Stern’s pocket that showed when the true 11th hour would arrive, and it is here. As I said during that radio interview in Detroit: Are the players really going to walk away from $2 billion in guaranteed money of the upcoming season? Hell, no. If they let that money fly out the window, it will be gone forever. The owners have been ruthless, hardheaded, stubborn and disciplined in this negotiation, and they won it a long time ago. But they still have to get it to the finish line, and that is why there is still has to be a little extra give left in their arsenal after keeping it in reserve for more than four months.

Entire blog can be found at https://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/11/08/labor-talks-time-to-make-a-move/?ls=iref:nbahpt1
 
Heard these exact same talks 2 weeks ago. I refuse to get fooled again! Won't care until it's 100%
 
No one is denying that it would be reasonable for things to get done in the way he has suggested, the problem is that reason seems to have left the building a long time ago...
 
I hope the players decertify. I"m a fan - I don't care about BRI.
What I want is a hard cap and to do away with guaranteed contracts = Parity.

Until I get those I'll be happy watching NCAA ball this season.
 
Even if they go 50/50, is there anything in the rest of the details that would help the Jazz or any other small market franchise?
 
GO JAZZ!!!!! WOOHOO!!!! WCF HERE WE COME!!!! HAYWARD TO FAVORS!!!!!








Wow it is fun to watch some of the games from the end of last season. :)
 
SalmonHobo said:
Even if they go 50/50, is there anything in the rest of the details that would help the Jazz or any other small market franchise?
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From what I have found, not really. There is hardly any change to the system that focuses on parity*. This is and always was a play for more money, not for a better product.

*the biggest change is the BRI, it sounds like the LT damages financially will be the same but that LT teams are more restricted on what their options are (which could make the financial disparity even worse actually). No revenue sharing that I've heard of, no franchise tag, guaranteed contracts will still saddle small-market teams disproportionately. This amnesty thing also favors deeper pockets disproportionately.
 
If there was one thing I was hoping for from this lockout, it would be a focus on the product and the owners took all of the leverage they had just to take money from the players.

But(t) **** it, I've lived this long with Utah being on the wrong side of an innate competitive disadvantage, and I ultimately don't care what ends up in the players pockets. I just want my ****ing hoops.
 
Derek Harper, who toiled memorably for the Knicks and Mavericks (among others) during his playing career, told Dwain Price of the Star-Telegram that he believes a deal is imminent:


”I think tomorrow we’re going to have a deal. I think guys want to play.”

“You talk about guys missing $300,000-$400,000 checks. That’s a lot of money to miss.”
 
Basketball_Romantic23 said:
Derek Harper, who toiled memorably for the Knicks and Mavericks (among others) during his playing career, told Dwain Price of the Star-Telegram that he believes a deal is imminent:


”I think tomorrow we’re going to have a deal. I think guys want to play.”

“You talk about guys missing $300,000-$400,000 checks. That’s a lot of money to miss.”
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"Let them go play in Utah. I don't want to, even for a $300,000-$400,000 check."
 
NUMBERICA said:
This is and always was a play for more money, not for a better product.
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Conventional wisdom is that last year's NBA season was one of the best in recent memory. I suspect that's part of the reason you don't hear much about product improvement being a primary issue among owners.
 
...I hope THIS proves to be true! Stern cuts the deal with the players....takes it back to the owners....and the owners say NO WAY! We want 53/47 now! End of story, end of season!!!
 
Are you guys forgetting Derek Fisher is leading the players. There will be no deal, unless he first tells the media that there will not be a deal.
 
I hate to say this but we all know there isn't going to be a season. The media/journalists/reporters are just trying to provide hope for the hopeful that something is done.
 
NUMBERICA said:
From what I have found, not really. There is hardly any change to the system that focuses on parity*. This is and always was a play for more money, not for a better product. *the biggest change is the BRI, it sounds like the LT damages financially will be the same but that LT teams are more restricted on what their options are (which could make the financial disparity even worse actually). No revenue sharing that I've heard of, no franchise tag, guaranteed contracts will still saddle small-market teams disproportionately. This amnesty thing also favors deeper pockets disproportionately.
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Once again, this is not the case. The players have continually moved off of their BRI position, but will not (or so they currently say) move off of their "system issues". Players still want the ability to play where they want to play and not be dictated around by the owners. The owners on the other hand still have the bad taste in their mouths from the Lebrons, Boshes, Melos and DWills. They don't want to be dictated around any more than the players. Everyone has been talking BRI this whole time, and while that is a big issue, I really think the biggest is how much control players will get over player movement.
 
BENTLEY said:
I hope the players decertify. I"m a fan - I don't care about BRI.
What I want is a hard cap and to do away with guaranteed contracts = Parity.

Until I get those I'll be happy watching NCAA ball this season.
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Agree on wanting a hard cap and no guaranteed contracts. De-certification means that won't happen.
 
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