Houston..

[Red]

Terrible closing argument TBH. You left out all big oil conspiracy theories.

Excerpt it's not a conspiracy theory. Exxon has publically admitted they understood the reality of AGW, and were, in fact, conducting some of the best science. Alone among the oil companies.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

 

[Red]

I bet Red's back has gone raw from all the self patting for winning all of those totally legit debates.

How many hours have you spent empowering trolls so far?

You're right. Were it not for me, Dutch and Boris would have been quiet as chuchmice. They would never have posted to a thread where the subject if climate change came up. My bad...

 

[Red]

He should just create a notepad file, and make up an argument he can demolish.

Question: If globel wornimg is true ten how come antactuca haz ice?

Response: a wall of text about changing ocean temperature around Antarctica.

There. All the satisfaction of research without contributing to the forum takeover by awful trolls.

In the several forums I post to, including one I moderate, once trolls are identified as such, they are usually banned.

 

[Boris]

I'm dismayed trained "scientists" of today make this kind of semantic mistake, logical mistake, and utterly non-scientific assertion.

extrapolation of whatever data is always hypothetical, never fact.... yet.

The data we have clearly indicate that we do not have a factual knowledge of all that occurs at the onset of any ice age, and that what we have recorded so far in terms of "climate change" on the warm extreme is within statistical norms established in the two decades presaging ice age onsets for the past six ice ages, per the core data we do have.

"scientists" today who are onboard with the "global warming" side "climate change" hypothesis must, from the data available, be reaching that conclusion for political if not monetary (grant funding or position holding) reasons.

For whatever reasons, with the onset of each ice age, the data indicate that global temps, per sediment or ice core estimates. will plunge 10-15C within a span of fifty years from onset, after arriving at temps statistically indistinguishable from todays temps or "climate".

There is a wealth of support for these statements in the lit. Peer-reviewed lit.

LOL an the alarmists are worried about 1.8 degrees f increase? We won't be able ta mine coal fast enough with that kinda drop.

 

[Siro]

In the several forums I post to, including one I moderate, once trolls are identified as such, they are usually banned.

Here, you can troll to your heart's desire as long as you use a proxy to hide your IP.

This is seriously crazy. I have no interest in reading fake responses to the troll's fake comments. Yet, 2 trolls now entirely dominate this forum.

I'm strongly considering just moving on.

 

[Gameface]

Here, you can troll to your heart's desire as long as you use a proxy to hide your IP.

This is seriously crazy. I have no interest in reading fake responses to the troll's fake comments. Yet, 2 trolls now entirely dominate this forum.

I'm strongly considering just moving on.

Yeah, I agree. And I've played a role in empowering them by responding and reacting to their trolls.

I know that Jason and Colton want to allow everyone to say what they want to say and not try to brand posters with unpopular views as trolls and ban them, but some posters are just trolls and they are not good for the health of this forum.

I have a hard time ignoring them, but I'm making a new effort to not respond to the trolls. Primarily Boris, who is 100% troll. There is really no way a reasonable person could see Boris as anything other than a troll.

Dutch is an actual Jazz fan as far as I know, but he should be more regularly penalized for his troll behavior in the GD forum.

I wonder if there could be a requirement that you have to participate in the Jazz forum in order to participate in the GD forum?

 

[Siro]

Yeah, I agree. And I've played a role in empowering them by responding and reacting to their trolls.

I know that Jason and Colton want to allow everyone to say what they want to say and not try to brand posters with unpopular views as trolls and ban them, but some posters are just trolls and they are not good for the health of this forum.

I have a hard time ignoring them, but I'm making a new effort to not respond to the trolls. Primarily Boris, who is 100% troll. There is really no way a reasonable person could see Boris as anything other than a troll.

Dutch is an actual Jazz fan as far as I know, but he should be more regularly penalized for his troll behavior in the GD forum.

I wonder if there could be a requirement that you have to participate in the Jazz forum in order to participate in the GD forum?

Don't think we've ever had a troll like Boris. Just look at any thread in GD. A couple of real discussion posts, followed by Boris hijacking the thread. Every ****ing thread!

Most of my time on the forum is now spent scrolling thru ignored posts and responses to ignored posts. It reminds me of my last days on USENET.

 

[LogGrad98]

I've been calling boris out for weeks. About time others are starting to see the guy is playing a role. Nothing real there at all.

 

[Siro]

I've been calling boris out for weeks. About time others are starting to see the guy is playing a role. Nothing real there at all.

Pretty sure most of us have known this for years.

 

[Boris]

Yeah, I agree. And I've played a role in empowering them by responding and reacting to their trolls.

I know that Jason and Colton want to allow everyone to say what they want to say and not try to brand posters with unpopular views as trolls and ban them, but some posters are just trolls and they are not good for the health of this forum.

I have a hard time ignoring them, but I'm making a new effort to not respond to the trolls. Primarily Boris, who is 100% troll. There is really no way a reasonable person could see Boris as anything other than a troll.

Dutch is an actual Jazz fan as far as I know, but he should be more regularly penalized for his troll behavior in the GD forum.

I wonder if there could be a requirement that you have to participate in the Jazz forum in order to participate in the GD forum?

I will make you a deal.

Stop stroking yerself off an brandishing yer verbal weapon an I will axe fer a moderator ban.

Forum ruined is a personalized construct. Something YOU decide. You know what ruins the forum for me? Do you even care? Maybe its jackasses being jackasses to other posters. Maybe it's normies turning this place into a political hellhole incapable of any reasonable discussion. Maybe it is the stupidity of Jazz Gans pushing the relentlessly wrong bulldhit ofvthe young kids are earthquake creation MVP candidates.


You want to complain incessantly here as you do? Complain about posters like [MENTION=40]Siro[/MENTION] [MENTION=295]RJF[/MENTION] @cappy smurf etc who seem convicted of a regulatory regime voice police bein the best form of thought control cause that is what you are doing as a SJW thought policeofficer.



I won't post here anymore cause you have such a huge problem with me. Peace be upon you.

 

[DutchJazzer]

There have been 20 additional years of data collection and building/testing of models, obviously. Just what you were saying should happen between now and 20 years from now

lols


you do know scientist from the 1400 used that same **** right.

"scientist" always think this time they got it right!!!!!!!!!!!!!



you knwo when they get it right and i will believe them

if in 30 years they did not change their ****. and their **** came true!!



this time we got it right is ********. ok if you got it right we can stop sicence, grab a drink go to some hookers and get drunk!


only retarded people are so naive that we got it right this time!

 

[DutchJazzer]

Yeah, I agree. And I've played a role in empowering them by responding and reacting to their trolls.

I know that Jason and Colton want to allow everyone to say what they want to say and not try to brand posters with unpopular views as trolls and ban them, but some posters are just trolls and they are not good for the health of this forum.

I have a hard time ignoring them, but I'm making a new effort to not respond to the trolls. Primarily Boris, who is 100% troll. There is really no way a reasonable person could see Boris as anything other than a troll.

Dutch is an actual Jazz fan as far as I know, but he should be more regularly penalized for his troll behavior in the GD forum.

I wonder if there could be a requirement that you have to participate in the Jazz forum in order to participate in the GD forum?

so having a different opinion is trolling!? and stating it in a way you do not like?

well sir you are trolling me your opinion is different from mine! and i do no tlike you stating yyours

so i reported you for trolling

 

[Red]

Don't think we've ever had a troll like Boris. Just look at any thread in GD. A couple of real discussion posts, followed by Boris hijacking the thread. Every ****ing thread!

Most of my time on the forum is now spent scrolling thru ignored posts and responses to ignored posts. It reminds me of my last days on USENET.

The very first comment in this thread stated "but climate change isn't real, right?". Well, one third of Americans believe global warming is a hoax, and plenty of non Americans probably agree, but I don't know the % overall in the developed world who think it's a hoax.

But if 1/3 of Americans believe global warming is a hoax, how does this thread develop without hearing opinions dissing global warming and in particular global warming caused by human activity?

I think it's the subject matter of the threads. Any thread that involves highly divisive issues are going to hear both sides. And one side is promulgating fake news and phony narratives to bolster its positions on those divisive issues. Which are bound to seem troll like to people more interested in what the truth of the matter is on any given issue.

When Sean Spicer walked into the briefing room and told the assembled reporters that Trump's inauguration crowd was the largest in history, was he not in fact trolling the entire room? This administration has been trolling the American public from day one.

The GD section will be like a microcosm of America when the subject matter of the thread involve issues and people dividing Americans. Trump, and that percentage of his base that amounts to a cult of personality, have weaponized fake news and spew it wherever and whenever they can. In that respect, from that point of view, they are all trolls.

 

[Siro]

The very first comment in this thread stated "but climate change isn't real, right?". Well, one third of Americans believe global warming is a hoax, and plenty of non Americans probably agree, but I don't know the % overall in the developed world who think it's a hoax.

But if 1/3 of Americans believe global warming is a hoax, how does this thread develop without hearing opinions dissing global warming and in particular global warming caused by human activity?

I think it's the subject matter of the threads. Any thread that involves highly divisive issues are going to hear both sides. And one side is promulgating fake news and phony narratives to bolster its positions on those divisive issues. Which are bound to seem troll like to people more interested in what the truth of the matter is on any given issue.

When Sean Spicer walked into the briefing room and told the assembled reporters that Trump's inauguration crowd was the largest in history, was he not in fact trolling the entire room? This administration has been trolling the American public from day one.

The GD section will be like a microcosm of America when the subject matter of the thread involve issues and people dividing Americans. Trump, and that percentage of his base that amounts to a cult of personality, have weaponized fake news and spew it wherever and whenever they can. In that respect, from that point of view, they are all trolls.

The first post asked that question sarcastically. But that's neither here nor there. I was annoyed that you're giving a fake poster so much attention, but I probably shouldn't have singled you out. Nonetheless, Boris is a fake poster, and not simply a troll. He started posting a couple of years ago as a Russian (thus the name Boris), with a fake Russian accent and all, and a thorough knowledge of every poster on this forum. He then changed his character a few times. I think he's a black kid from Baltimore now or something? I've had him on ignore for a while, so I'm not sure.

You can do whatever you wish. Maybe you think there's value to what you're saying even if the person you're arguing with is insincere. But you should know that he IS insincere. He is wasting your time on purpose for his personal entertainment.

 

[Gameface]

The first post asked that question sarcastically. But that's neither here nor there. I was annoyed that you're giving a fake poster so much attention, but I probably shouldn't have singled you out. Nonetheless, Boris is a fake poster, and not simply a troll. He started posting a couple of years ago as a Russian (thus the name Boris), with a fake Russian accent and all, and a thorough knowledge of every poster on this forum. He then changed his character a few times. I think he's a black kid from Baltimore now or something? I've had him on ignore for a while, so I'm not sure.

You can do whatever you wish. Maybe you think there's value to what you're saying even if the person you're arguing with is insincere. But you should know that he IS insincere. He is wasting your time on purpose for his personal entertainment.

A possible identity for the poster known as Boris was suggested to me and it really seems to fit. I know Ron Mexico believes it is Trout, but I've always had a hard time accepting that. The only clue I'm going to say in the open is that it is very likely that Boris is a female.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

A possible identity for the poster known as Boris was suggested to me and it really seems to fit. I know Ron Mexico believes it is Trout, but I've always had a hard time accepting that. The only clue I'm going to say in the open is that it is very likely that Boris is a female.

PearlWatson? That makes sense I guess.

I looked at the member list earlier today, sorted by join date, and it only shows members with 10 or more posts. Page one is 30 names long, and the last one is OVER a year old, and one of them is you, obviously NOT a new poster. Trolls drive people out.

 

[Red]

The first post asked that question sarcastically. But that's neither here nor there. I was annoyed that you're giving a fake poster so much attention, but I probably shouldn't have singled you out. Nonetheless, Boris is a fake poster, and not simply a troll. He started posting a couple of years ago as a Russian (thus the name Boris), with a fake Russian accent and all, and a thorough knowledge of every poster on this forum. He then changed his character a few times. I think he's a black kid from Baltimore now or something? I've had him on ignore for a while, so I'm not sure.

You can do whatever you wish. Maybe you think there's value to what you're saying even if the person you're arguing with is insincere. But you should know that he IS insincere. He is wasting your time on purpose for his personal entertainment.

Yeah, I thought there was value, but then again, maybe there really isn't. I am naive. But I'll remember in the future.

 

[Gameface]

PearlWatson? That makes sense I guess.

I looked at the member list earlier today, sorted by join date, and it only shows members with 10 or more posts. Page one is 30 names long, and the last one is OVER a year old, and one of them is you, obviously NOT a new poster. Trolls drive people out.

Are you calling me a troll?

I am the poster formerly known as Gameface. This is not a secret.

I feel I've been a valuable member of this online community. I've had probably more than 30 Jazzfanz members over to my house over the years of hosting poker games. I've been involved in pretty much every mini-meetup there has been. I've gone to Jazz games with several people.

I'm not some anonymous poster trying to get everyone riled up for the sake of agitating them. My name is Jared Brigham Young. I act like myself here, for better or worse.

 

[Siro]

Are you calling me a troll?

I am the poster formerly known as Gameface. This is not a secret.

I feel I've been a valuable member of this online community. I've had probably more than 30 Jazzfanz members over to my house over the years of hosting poker games. I've been involved in pretty much every mini-meetup there has been. I've gone to Jazz games with several people.

I'm not some anonymous poster trying to get everyone riled up for the sake of agitating them. My name is Jared Brigham Young. I act like myself here, for better or worse.

I don't wanna speak for him, but I think you misunderstood. I took his comment to mean that the destruction of the forums is discouraging new members from joining, given that we've had fewer than 30 new members in an entire year, and one of those is you (so some of those aren't even actual new members).

 

[Gameface]

I don't wanna speak for him, but I think you misunderstood. I took his comment to mean that the destruction of the forums is discouraging new members from joining, given that we've had fewer than 30 new members in an entire year, and one of those is you (so some of those aren't even actual new members).

ahh