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This is hilarious. Now there's an article outlining the reasons Enes should start. Not because he's a better player than Adams or would make their starters better. Basically because his net damage would be less with the starters than it is with the subs. OKC has a $16M albatross on their hands. Where is that commitment to defense? I thought Enes was going to come back quicker and better on defense this season? He was hampered by Corbin and Snyder not using him right. Things were all rosy when he was traded to OKC, where he could be that generational talent.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25377065/why-enes-kanter-needs-to-start-for-the-oklahoma-city-thunder


"...However, Kanter entered the season with questions about his ability to contribute meaningfully to a perceived championship contender. His production has always been superb, but his defense, through eye test or data, is a disaster.


Kanter's production is incredible. He's averaging 21 points and 14 rebounds per 36 minutes on 57 percent shooting. That's good. You can talk about stat-padding or whatever, but Kanter is a gifted scorer, great on putbacks and makes the Thunder offense an absolute monster. With Kanter on the court, the Thunder score 109 points per 100 possessions, the third-best mark for any OKC player outside of Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant.


Their defense, however, gives up 105.3 points per 100 possessions, 10.2 points worse than when he sits. That's an issue. However, most Thunder fans would probably expect me to say that Kanter shouldn't play at all, that on a team with the kind of scoring power the Thunder have, his offensive firepower is redundant and unnecessary. After all, I torched the decision to match a max offer for him this summer. But not so fast. I have a different idea.


Start him.


The long and short of it is this: The Thunder bench lineups are better trying to win defensive matchups, but are limited because of Kanter's presence, and while the starters for OKC don't, in any way, need Kanter. Their offense is so dominant for long stretches that his defensive liabilities are irrelevant, because they simply crush everyone offensively.
 
As I recall before Jazz drafted the bum I told yall to stay away from him and was blasted by the likes of PKM who him and his"inside Sources" (the internet) called Kanter a cant miss prospect. I was right on him as a bust, I was right as Doufus, and ill be proven right about Lyles in a couple years. Some of you need to show the respect to me for my bball knowledge. I have proven tme after time to know more about hoops then yall. Have a good night
 
As I recall before Jazz drafted the bum I told yall to stay away from him and was blasted by the likes of PKM who him and his"inside Sources" (the internet) called Kanter a cant miss prospect. I was right on him as a bust, I was right as Doufus, and ill be proven right about Lyles in a couple years. Some of you need to show the respect to me for my bball knowledge. I have proven tme after time to know more about hoops then yall. Have a good night

For those of us who dont know who you are and have never seen these claims you are making I would like some links to these claims about Kanter and Koufos and the others you have been right about.

On a second note can we really stop these petty posts about Kanter. None of us like him but it makes us look like petty jealous ex girlfriends with all these posts trying to justify our trade and dislike. He is gone move on. Post **** about how he is playing in the general NBA thread if you have to.
 
For those of us who dont know who you are and have never seen these claims you are making I would like some links to these claims about Kanter and Koufos and the others you have been right about.

On a second note can we really stop these petty posts about Kanter. None of us like him but it makes us look like petty jealous ex girlfriends with all these posts trying to justify our trade and dislike. He is gone move on. Post **** about how he is playing in the general NBA thread if you have to.

Jealous of what? Sticking OKC with that contract was as effective a move to limit them as a future competitor as we could have made. And I still enjoy hearing about Kanter's failures, so keep em coming. It's entertaining.
 
For those of us who dont know who you are and have never seen these claims you are making I would like some links to these claims about Kanter and Koufos and the others you have been right about.

On a second note can we really stop these petty posts about Kanter. None of us like him but it makes us look like petty jealous ex girlfriends with all these posts trying to justify our trade and dislike. He is gone move on. Post **** about how he is playing in the general NBA thread if you have to.


I don't have the resources but have the mods goback and find it. I wouldn't even bring it up so much but some fans treat me like I have ZERO bball knowledge and so far im batting way better then anyone on here.. Jazz draft last year suckes. 2 Canada players. I also called Millspa a steal. I was wrogn about Dee Brown but that was because your bigot owner thought he was a bad influence on Deron when Dee has always been nothing but a class act. Imagine that the owner assuming something about one the pklayers. Now isee where Jazz fans got that attitude from
 
Yeah - Kanter's no Grant Jerrett or Tibor Pleiss - that's for sure.

Trading the right to pay a max contract to Kanter for nothing is like trading cancer for nothing.

Sure you end up with nothing, but you still win the trade.
 
Jealous of what? Sticking OKC with that contract was as effective a move to limit them as a future competitor as we could have made. And I still enjoy hearing about Kanter's failures, so keep em coming. It's entertaining.

My point exactly.
 
The turn around the jazz made on the defensive end after trading Kanter belongs in NBA history books. It was that dramatic. Subtracting him was a big part of that. I'll always like hearing about his failures. Call me a hater.
 
For those of us who dont know who you are and have never seen these claims you are making I would like some links to these claims about Kanter and Koufos and the others you have been right about.

I can confirm. He has been saying that since the start. Lol at the PKM's inside sources=internet joke.

On a second note can we really stop these petty posts about Kanter. None of us like him but it makes us look like petty jealous ex girlfriends with all these posts trying to justify our trade and dislike. He is gone move on. Post **** about how he is playing in the general NBA thread if you have to.

Agreed.
 
Trading the right to pay a max contract to Kanter for nothing is like trading cancer for nothing.

Sure you end up with nothing, but you still win the trade.

I'm aware of your point and it's a valid one.

But The Jazz have already eaten one guaranteed contract (albeit minimal) and will probably end up eating another in order to get these two stiffs off the 15 man roster.

DL should have done better.
 
I don't have the resources but have the mods goback and find it. I wouldn't even bring it up so much but some fans treat me like I have ZERO bball knowledge and so far im batting way better then anyone on here.. Jazz draft last year suckes. 2 Canada players. I also called Millspa a steal. I was wrogn about Dee Brown but that was because your bigot owner thought he was a bad influence on Deron when Dee has always been nothing but a class act. Imagine that the owner assuming something about one the pklayers. Now isee where Jazz fans got that attitude from

Look, I found you the required resources! It's a ****ing internet miracle!

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=nocoloradojazz+jazzfanz.com+kanter+predictions
 
I'm aware of your point and it's a valid one.

But The Jazz have already eaten one guaranteed contract (albeit minimal) and will probably end up eating another in order to get these two stiffs off the 15 man roster.

DL should have done better.

Small price to pay for handicapping a future conference rival.
 
OKC needs more time than this season to settle down with the new coach 'n all and obviously they will most probably lose Durant and Russ at the end. Maybe Waiters too. Enes is not getting the ball on O like he loves in post ups and the team will be left to his post game, face up midrange etc. when the superhumans of the team leave and they are not once again a playoff team.

Enes' D is a lot better compared to before in the means of effort. We can say that it's his rookie year level with more awareness on help D and lateral movement. But don't get your hopes too high. I'm comparing Enes to Enes. Leaguewide, he is still pretty bad.
 
We got more in return for trading Kevin Murphy than we did in the Kanter trade. Make of that what you will.

Yeah it was a little too in a hurry. Jazz tried to play we are keeping Enes game but Enes did not allow it by saying crap so I don't blame the FO. Especially not QS as he played his role well even though he was a rookie coach.
 
As the philosopher known as that blondie princess in Frozen says : "let it goooooooo, let it gooooooo...".

Move on guys, Kanter is gone, no need to keep posting.
 
I'm not discussing his trade, that for some reasons was inevitable. But he is playing well enough with OKC.

Interesting article about his beginning of the season.

https://newsok.com/article/5460009

He's averaging 12.4 points and 8.9 rebounds and doing it in only 21.4 minutes per game.

“He's a force down there,” Durant said. “You can say what you want about him, but you can book him for (those numbers).”

“Enes has been great for us,” Durant said.
 
I'm not discussing his trade, that for some reasons was inevitable. But he is playing well enough with OKC.

Interesting article about his beginning of the season.

https://newsok.com/article/5460009

He's averaging 12.4 points and 8.9 rebounds and doing it in only 21.4 minutes per game.

“He's a force down there,” Durant said. “You can say what you want about him, but you can book him for (those numbers).”

“Enes has been great for us,” Durant said.

No, he's not doing fine at all for a max contract player. He's playing like 17 mpg recently and he's mostly on the bench because his defense is still terrible. He never plays money time either. So hardly a success for OKC.

Hardly a success for him either : he left for more playing time and now he's getting a lot less time than before.

But as some others said, let's move on now. Jazz are doing mighty fine since he left anyway.
 
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