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How much should we give up for a #1 option?

What would you be willing to give up for a #1 option

  • Kanter

    Votes: 2 14.3%

  • Kanter+ '14 Jazz pick

    Votes: 3 21.4%

  • Kanter+ '14 Jazz pick+ '14 Warriors

    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • Kanter+ '14 Jazz pick+ '14, '17 Warriors

    Votes: 5 35.7%
  • Total voters
    14
Batman

Batman

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It seems quite likely that the Jazz will end up drafting somewhere between the 5th and 8th pick in the draft. That being the case, we'd likely miss out on Jabari, Exum, Wiggins, and Emiid. Perhaps even Randle if we are out of the top 5.

Watching the last few games it has become so apparent that we need a star in the 4th quarter. We need a guy that can flat out score. Let's say you believe Jabari, Wiggins, Or Exum is a legit #1 option. How much would you be willing to give up.

Say, for instance, that Orlando comes to you the day of the draft and says Hey we have the #3 pick and you have the number 6 pick. We'll give you the 3rd pick in the draft for the 6th pick, Kanter, GSW pick 2014, GSW pick 2017, and your pick next year. Would you do it? Would it be worth it. Just imagine.

Starters:
Trey Burke
Gordon Hayward
Jabari Parker
Derrick Favors
Rudy Gobert

Bench:
Alec Burks
Raul Neto
Jeremy Evans
Marvin Williams

Personally, I am somewhat conflicted because I like Kanter but at the same time, we need a star and I don't think we have one yet.

Discuss what you would be willing to give up for a shot at Wiggins, Parker, or Exum.
 
We are just as likely to not end up where you are saying we may. But to answer your question, Id give up Kanter, rights to raul, all of our picks this year and our pick next year for Wiggins or Parker. However if I could guarantee id end up with Marcus Smart at 6, i'd stand pat. Marcus Smart will be a star.
 
For a top 3 pick, I'd give up Kanter, Burks, the GS pick, our pick this year.

Because, without that #1 guy, it doesn't matter who #2, #3, #4, etc is. We are a 5-10th place team in the West.
 
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Because the top-3 are all GUARANTEED to be superstars and #1 options.

I'd trade a pick in the #6 range plus a future first for a veteran #1 option from a team looking to rebuild.
 
green said:
For a top 3 pick, I'd give up Kanter, Burks, the GS pick, our pick this year.

Because, without that #1 guy, it doesn't matter who #2, #3, #4, etc is. We are a 5-10th place team in the West.
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I pretty much agree with this. Kanter has talent - but I just don't see him as a starting PF on a top 4 team. I'm a charter member of the Burks Fan Club; but if you can get Parker/Wiggins for Burks then sayonara.

I only look at the GS pick as an asset to trade for something else. I have little interest in what player it would get Utah in the draft. I hope Jazz management sees it the same way.
 
candrew said:
I pretty much agree with this. Kanter has talent - but I just don't see him as a starting PF on a top 4 team. I'm a charter member of the Burks Fan Club; but if you can get Parker/Wiggins for Burks then sayonara.

I only look at the GS pick as an asset to trade for something else. I have little interest in what player it would get Utah in the draft. I hope Jazz management sees it the same way.
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ditto on Kanter.
I like him and he has some upside
but he is not "the" star Jazz need desperately.
so he is expendable, if this move will bring a super talent to Utah.
 
Kanter has to leave and Gobert would start?Are u kiddin'?. In addition to that you are willing to overpay Gordon Hayward?Thats not very smart. Marvin should start instead. I would trade Enes and the Jazz Pick in a heartbeat for Jabari or Wiggins. Maybe even Embiid. Everyone is complaining about the spacing problem but you are ready to start Gobert or Embiid next to Favors? The question is also would the other Gm take the offer from the Jazz? In my opinion Dante Exum will not be better than Alec Burks. The fact Exum dominated FIBA youth competitions tells nothing because Kanter killed FIBA youth competitions and Nike Hoop Summit too...
 
For a true #1 option? Easy answer: anyone and everyone. You can build around that guy. It would not likely take all of the core5 but any part going away for a number one? get it done!
 
berat_36 said:
Kanter has to leave and Gobert would start?Are u kiddin'?. In addition to that you are willing to overpay Gordon Hayward?Thats not very smart. Marvin should start instead. I would trade Enes and the Jazz Pick in a heartbeat for Jabari or Wiggins. Maybe even Embiid. Everyone is complaining about the spacing problem but you are ready to start Gobert or Embiid next to Favors? The question is also would the other Gm take the offer from the Jazz? In my opinion Dante Exum will not be better than Alec Burks. The fact Exum dominated FIBA youth competitions tells nothing because Kanter killed FIBA youth competitions and Nike Hoop Summit too...
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I am talking long term plan with Gobert; next 3 to 4 years or so. Not so much just next year.

Also, It really doesn't matter how much you spend on Gordon Hayward. We have to spend that money on someone (and let's not kid ourselves: We are not gonna net a great guy in free agency) and let's say we land Jabari or Wiggins and they become a star, Gordon's contract will be up by the time we have to pay our big stud.

Also, You are wrong about Exum. If he stays healthy, he'll get to the rim at will in the NBA. Eat Crow!! (just playing man. I've always wanted to say that!! ;))
 
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Batman said:
Eat Crow!
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Batman said:
I am talking long term plan with Gobert; next 3 to 4 years or so. Not so much just next year.

Also, It really doesn't matter how much you spend on Gordon Hayward. He have to spend that money on someone (and let's not kid ourselves: We are not gonna net a great guy in free agency) and let's say we land Jabari or Wiggins and they become a star, Gordon's contract will be up by the time we have to pay our big stud.

Also, You are wrong about Exum. If he stays healthy, he'll get to the rim at will in the NBA. Eat Crow!! (just playing man. I've always wanted to say that!! ;))
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Since this is hypothetical, I would trade one young player + our pick. The young player depends on which player we are going to draft. Some of you guys want to sell the farm for players who haven't even dominated the NCAA, for guys who have put up decent numbers when given the minutes in the NBA. I am not ready to give up on Kanter yet but I understand that to get talent you have to give it away. If Kanter and Favors can't play together then why did you draft Kanter. Jazz should have taken V then to play center.

Anyways, I think giving away two first and a very good young player is way too much. I throw in a couple of seconds maybe but not two first to move up a couple spots. Now if Lebron was a possibility then yea I would throw in another first or two. Sorry but Parker and/or Wiggins are not close to Lebron coming out of High school. I hope DL has more sense and information to not sell the farm to move up.

Personally, I would trade Hayward plus our pick since Hayward becomes somewhat redundant with the addition of Wiggins/Parker. I do this because Hayward wants too much money. People say Hayward's money will be finished when Wiggins or Parker are up for their contract. Remember we have other players to sign, besides then you are just going to let Hayward walk because you can't pay Wiggins/Parker and Hayward. Yes hayward will want another contract. You can find another SG with the second first round pick and Burks can play SG and Wiggins/Parker can play SF. It is much harder to find a PF like Kanter in FA than it is to find a backup SG/SF.
 
Shamelessly tank every remaining game and that's what you have to give up.

If that still fails, then a lot.
 
The only untouchable guy we have is Favors. 12 million per is a great contract for a guy with truly elite defensive potential so he only gets dealt if you can replace what he does which is very unlikely. Burks is close because I think he may have elite offensive potential, but even I'll admit he has a lot more to prove on that front. With one more year to RFA, though, he should be kept.

Every other guy we have is definitely trade bait. Hayward is a great player to have, but you absolutely can't overpay him, and you can't lose him for nothing, so he's the most likely Sell High guy on our roster. Kanter has intriguing upside, but there's nothing untouchable about him. And while I like Burke, he's definitely replaceable.

I guess everyone should be in the conversation to obtain a true star player, but my list of guys we should be offering to guys we shouldn't would go: Hayward, Kanter, Burke, Burks, Favors.
 
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