Go back and read everything that was written. I betcha it sounds a hell of a lot more like what I just said than what you said above.
No , you misrepresented what you said, and what I said.
Go back and read everything that was written. I betcha it sounds a hell of a lot more like what I just said than what you said above.
I suspect that more bad than good is done in the name of charity.
I suspect that those that give to charity see a lot of good it does.
I suspect those that don't give to charity feel it would be a waste anyway.
Like building lots of big buildings that are exempt from being taxed like other real estate?
As I said, those that give are more likely to see the good in things and those that don't, don't. I'm not debating the merits of any specific thing, but rather the psychological/philosophical side of the equation.
Some people know that a charity is bad , and they support it for their own selfish reasons.
You are generalizing. Different people are involved with charity for different reasons.
You are assuming that charity is good.
You are using circular reasoning.
I would agree that most people who donate to a charity because they want to be charitable tend to over value in their mind the supposed good that the charity does, and are relatively blind to the negative consequences of the charity.
I'm sure you're right.
I'm also in agreement that people have different motivations. I also agree that I was generalizing. No arguments from me so far.
How did you get that from what I posted? You're wrong on that one.
Really? Based on this post??
"I suspect that those that give to charity see a lot of good it does.
I suspect those that don't give to charity feel it would be a waste anyway."
Wow, that some jaded viewpoint there. I'm not sure how we got to debating whether charity is good or bad when all I said was it's in the eye of the beholder .. but you are seriously a crusty ol' hater if you actually believe that charity is more bad than good. JMO.
PKM, hurting me does not make you right. You are living in a fantasy world.
Both sentences are laughable.
- I hurt you, really?
- I live in a fantasy world because I think that some, but not all, things that come from charitable giving are good?
So, as you have stated, people who give charitably do so for selfish and evil reasons and those that handle the charities do so for selfish and evil reasons. Gotcha. (oh .. and wow.)
Go back and read everything that was written. I betcha it sounds a hell of a lot more like what I just said than what you said above.
You make up stuff about what I said.
Why not disagree with something I actually said, instead of saying I said things I did not say, and mocking me for those things?
So after saying I was wrong to say that you think charity does more good than bad, you are saying that you do think charity does more good than bad, and mock me for thinking otherwise.... and yet you will not discuss this topic.
You suck at this. Let me help. (nothing left out .. it's all there and in order)
Starting with your first post in this thread (or at least recently).
You have since edited this one, but ...
My response to your's above.
Your response: "You do not discuss the topic, but instead resort to calling me names in order to degrade my reputation and undermine my position." "No, this is totally different than what you said earlier." "Again, you are changing things around, saying I said things totally different from what i said."
Originally Posted by PKM:. When I pay a tithe, I have complete confidence that God will do good with it .. it's just faith.
Yours: evidence
Originally Posted by PKM: As I said, those that give are more likely to see the good in things and those that don't, don't. I'm not debating the merits of any specific thing, but rather the psychological/philosophical side of the equation.
Yours: evidence
so I said nothing incorrect, but again with the name calling.Maybe it's me .. could be. But you seem incoherent and delirious.
so I said nothing incorrect, but again with the name calling.
no, false statements are not conjecture
yes, I do, sorry, ha ha , good joke, smiley face.
also
personal attacks are not conjecture
Since you ask, I do suggest that people are predisposed to thinking that charities are good , without thinking much about the full ramifications of having them, both good and bad. I think that the tax benefits afforded to charities generally do more harm than good.