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Hotttnickkk said:
Yeah, that maybe, but if I were the GM, or the coach, that's what I'd do.


Whose decision was it to play LeBron at the PG when he first came to the NBA? IT WAS GENIUS. He learnt a lot about how to handle the ball, how to run the offense, how to pass and make plays, etc. It was outside the box thinking for sure to put him at PG...


I see A LOT of potential for Randle at the SF and I just think he'll thrive there.
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I thought lebron played the point guard alot in high school. Remember him getting magic johnson comparisons.

Huge difference between high school lebron and randle in court vision, bbiq, leadership, ball handling, and passing ability.
 
PKM said:
He does have some point forward skills.. but he's not a SF.

I think the likelihood that the Jazz end up with Randle is very high.
I doubt we end up 3rd worst. Let's call it 4th. At least one team leapfrogs and we pick 5th. I'd say that comes down to Randle and Gordon. I suspect the Jazz take Randle, but it's too close to call.
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Randle's ceiling just doesn't seem that high to me. His athleticism is underwhelming, as is his length... his bully ball won't be as effective in the NBA...

Make me more excited about him, peeks.
 
Serious question: is there a way to block all new threads posted by Hotnickkkkk so I don't have to read the daily drivel?
 
Why Randle at SF? Holy hell, I though we went through this a thousand times.

Burks is not a PG. Put him at SG and he excelled.
Millsap is not a SF. He is an All-Star PF though.
Hayward is not a PG. He is a very effective SG.

Why try to turn Randle into something he isn't? He is a PF that will probably put up Millsap numbers (14-16 and 9-10). In fact, he is Millsap. Keep him at PF. Get a couple All-Star games out of him, then don't overpay him when he ages. Pretty simple. Randle is probably the safest pick in the draft.

You know you will get 10 years of 14-18 PPG, 8-11 Rebs, and solid defense with a good coach. Probably get 1-3 All-Star games. That's it.

Don't reinvent the wheel.
 
spycam1 said:
Randle's ceiling just doesn't seem that high to me. His athleticism is underwhelming, as is his length... his bully ball won't be as effective in the NBA...

Make me more excited about him, peeks.
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I can't .. I agree.

green said:
Why Randle at SF? Holy hell, I though we went through this a thousand times.

Burks is not a PG. Put him at SG and he excelled.
Millsap is not a SF. He is an All-Star PF though.
Hayward is not a PG. He is a very effective SG.

Why try to turn Randle into something he isn't? He is a PF that will probably put up Millsap numbers (14-16 and 9-10). In fact, he is Millsap. Keep him at PF. Get a couple All-Star games out of him, then don't overpay him when he ages. Pretty simple. Randle is probably the safest pick in the draft.

You know you will get 10 years of 14-18 PPG, 8-11 Rebs, and solid defense with a good coach. Probably get 1-3 All-Star games. That's it.

Don't reinvent the wheel.
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Not a bad post.
 
PKM said:
I can't .. I agree.
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Then we better pick Gordon, if it comes down to that. For all his flaws, I definitely think he has a higher ceiling than Randle. I don't want to waste our tank pick on a player with a low ceiling.
 
I think Vonleh could be a sleeper pick at #5. If he shoots well and shows the ability to play 2 positions like a Lamar Odom or Chris Bosh, he could be an attractive pick. He might be able to play some at the 3 using his length to contain perimeter players somewhat. I'm not sure what Randle would look like trying to guard SFs out on the perimeter.
 
Catchall said:
I think Vonleh could be a sleeper pick at #5. If he shoots well and shows the ability to play 2 positions like a Lamar Odom or Chris Bosh, he could be an attractive pick. He might be able to play some at the 3 using his length to contain perimeter players somewhat. I'm not sure what Randle would look like trying to guard SFs out on the perimeter.
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I don't like the idea of either guarding most SF's.. but vonleh's length certainly gives him the edge.
 
Randle is an offensively minded undersized PF who can't defend, but is good at rebounding.

Kanter is an offensively minded oversized PF who can't defend, but is good at rebounding.

Kanter>Randle. Rabdle would be a failed draft.

The Jazz need an SF, and a bigger/better defending PG. If Parker declares and we pick 5th and the top 4 are Wiggins, Embiid, Parker, Exum--we should grab Smart or A. Gordon (someone who has a better chance at being an SF).

Currently our PFs are:

Favors
Kanter
Evans (better suited as sf)
Marvin (better suited as sf)
Murphy
Thomas

We really don't need another PF, unless they were named Kevin Love
 
green said:
I agree with this. If we get Randle, we might as well have just kept Millsap.
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Millsap would've been better. Not knocking Randle, but Millsap can actually hit the 3. Keeping Sap would've allowed us to draft yet another player/ fill another need, like shooting.

Butke, Neto, v. Miciic
Burks, Stauskas
Hayward, Marvin, McDermott, Evans
Millsap, Kanter, Murphy, Evans
Favors, Gobert


That team doesn't win any championships, but neither does one with Randle substituted for Millsap and missing the shooters.
 
spycam1 said:
Randle's ceiling just doesn't seem that high to me. His athleticism is underwhelming, as is his length... his bully ball won't be as effective in the NBA...

Make me more excited about him, peeks.
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If we put Randle to 1 side, I just can't get excited about Gordon is his ceiling is Shawn Marion or AK47.



The defense and athleticism is nice, but I would need more from him offensively.
 
Sexual Favors said:
Millsap would've been better. Not knocking Randle, but Millsap can actually hit the 3. Keeping Sap would've allowed us to draft yet another player/ fill another need, like shooting.

Butke, Neto, v. Miciic
Burks, Stauskas
Hayward, Marvin, McDermott, Evans
Millsap, Kanter, Murphy, Evans
Favors, Gobert


That team doesn't win any championships, but neither does one with Randle substituted for Millsap and missing the shooters.
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Agree 100%.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
If we put Randle to 1 side, I just can't get excited about Gordon is his ceiling is Shawn Marion or AK47.



The defense and athleticism is nice, but I would need more from him offensively.
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How about his Blake Griffin like dunks. A. Gordon is the kind of player who could succeed without a true position because he is just so gifted defensively, athletically, and has a very high BBIQ. He is a baller.

Rabdle's ball handling, athleticism, and perimeter game were all overhyped in high school. He really has none of those. Lack of athleticism, with lack of shooting, with lack of size, with lack of defense isn't anything to be excited about. It's something to be scared of.
 
How about this then, let's say we can somehow get Stauskus:


Favors
Kanter
Randle
Stauskus/Burks
Burke


Plenty of 3pt shooting with Burke and Stauskus. Kanter can slim down and play stretch 4. That leaves Randle & Favors in pick/roll action & slashing/off the dribble. Randle will draw double team all day long and pass it out to Kanter/Stauskus/Burke. Everyone's long for their position. Fill the rest of the team with quality vets.
 
I think it's appropriate to re-link this video analysis I did here:

Hotttnickkk said:
Alright guys, here's my weekly "Randle got KILLER *SF* SKILLZZZ" video analysis.


Hope you guys enjoy them, as much as I enjoy bringing them to you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6sCTv0TGYw

- 0.05min: Randle iso on the 3pt line, dribble drive into the paint and SLAMS it

- 0.16min: Randle again up top, dribble around his defender, floater against shot blocker

- 0.43min: Randle again starting from the 3pt line, dribble penetration, rises up and banks it in off the glass

- 1.09min: Again, dribbles, gets into the lane, leaner over the shorter defender and in

- 1.36min: Randle receives the ball top of the key, spin move into the lane and hook shot over the defender
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