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I really like Ty Corbin

Nate505 said:
I know the Jazz have been beating bad teams, but if the Jazz were horrid they'd be losing to these bad teams.
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At least to some of them, anyway. I was pretty worried watching them collapse in those blowout losses. Losing is one thing, but getting blown out over and over can really get in the player's heads. Very happy to see them build some confidence at home, and then add to that with the road win. I still don't believe they'll be a playoff team, but I'll admit I'm starting to sip the kool-aid. Cautiously.
 
I'm not sure we can read too much into the rotations at this point. With the condensed schedule you can bet Ty cuts back on some player minutes to conserve energy for the next game and it has nothing to do with merit.

I just want to see continued development from the youngsters. And I am seriously hoping the Jazz finish 33-33 and MISS the playoffs. The Memo TPE combined with a lottery pick in a deep draft could be extremely valuable.
 
I want to see Burks continue to get minutes with Favors and Kanter. He can set them up nicely on shots when he drives. Jefferson and Millsap can get their own shots so it makes more sense to start Raja with them.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Burks has been playing out of control most of the time he's played, but when he's not getting to the line at a Kevin Martin-esque rate and hitting his shots, good lord does he hurt what the team is doing. His rate of putting up shots HAS to be the highest on the team, or if not, it's vying for it with Chuckerson and Chuck J.
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Fact check time... my magic spreadsheet says the top 5 shooters/48min are Jefferson by a long way (24.5), then Catch'n'Jack (20.8) closely followed by Burks (20.1), then a slight gap, then Millsap (18.0) and Howard (17.6) close together. Then daylight to... this is interesting... Favors (14.7) ahead of Hayward (13.8) and Harris (13.6).

However, this only takes into account shots that count for stats. Burks is the leader in FT/48mins (just ahead of Howard) which indicate he gets a lot of trips from fouls on missed shots - add these missed attempts to his stats and he would clearly leapfrog CJ for second place in the shots taken count. So your perception of his shooting rate is supported by the facts. Given his 42% shooting percentage he could certainly exercise better judgement with his shot selection, other than when he is attacking the basket and drawing fouls, of course (where an improvement in his 72.2% FT% wouldn't hurt either).

However, in spite of his volume shooting, he is also fifth in the team in assist rate after the three PGs and Hayward. And fifth in rebound rate after Kanter, Favors, Millsap and Jefferson. So he may be a chucker, but he's not a one-dimensional chucker.
 
Mantis said:
Fact check time... my magic spreadsheet says the top 5 shooters/48min are Jefferson by a long way (24.5), then Catch'n'Jack (20.8) closely followed by Burks (20.1), then a slight gap, then Millsap (18.0) and Howard (17.6) close together. Then daylight to... this is interesting... Favors (14.7) ahead of Hayward (13.8) and Harris (13.6).

However, this only takes into account shots that count for stats. Burks is the leader in FT/48mins (just ahead of Howard) which indicate he gets a lot of trips from fouls on missed shots - add these missed attempts to his stats and he would clearly leapfrog CJ for second place in the shots taken count. So your perception of his shooting rate is supported by the facts. Given his 42% shooting percentage he could certainly exercise better judgement with his shot selection, other than when he is attacking the basket and drawing fouls, of course (where an improvement in his 72.2% FT% wouldn't hurt either).

However, in spite of his volume shooting, he is also fifth in the team in assist rate after the three PGs and Hayward. And fifth in rebound rate after Kanter, Favors, Millsap and Jefferson. So he may be a chucker, but he's not a one-dimensional chucker.
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I love when numbers support what I see. And don't get me wrong, I'm actually pretty high on Burks (like many). However, I don't think he's earned nor has he shown the ability to have the green light that he plays as though he has. Like you mentioned at the end, he does some really nice and rather unique things, but he doesn't have to take plainly bad shots (off-balance [floating laterally, fading away] long jump-shots, or contested jump shots, or jumpshots early in the offense) to accomplish them. He really needs to just focus on getting to the cup on and off the ball, and spotting up from 3 (where I think he can at least be respected if it's spotted up and he's squared). Maybe the super-star off-the-dribble/mid-range slop will come with time. But not now.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I love when numbers support what I see. And don't get me wrong, I'm actually pretty high on Burks (like many). However, I don't think he's earned nor has he shown the ability to have the green light that he plays as though he has. Like you mentioned at the end, he does some really nice and rather unique things, but he doesn't have to take plainly bad shots (off-balance [floating laterally, fading away] long jump-shots, or contested jump shots, or jumpshots early in the offense) to accomplish them. He really needs to just focus on getting to the cup on and off the ball, and spotting up from 3 (where I think he can at least be respected if it's spotted up and he's squared). Maybe the super-star off-the-dribble/mid-range slop will come with time. But not now.
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I'm not sure if I find referring to the hoop as "the cup" so annoying because Mark Jackson does it constantly, or because cup is just a stupid description for a hoop.
 
northeast said:
numberica's wrong. the Jazz need somebody who can do more than catch and shoot, and Burks stats are good.
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So much retarded in this post I don't even know where to start.

EDIT: I'll give it a shot.

1) I didn't say his stats weren't good.
2) I didn't say that I wanted Burks to become a pure catch and shoot player.
3) I would be wrong if I had asserted either of those things, but I didn't.

Was this a deliberate scarecrow argument because you have some axe to grind, or are you really that dense?
 
NUMBERICA said:
So much retarded in this post I don't even know where to start.

EDIT: I'll give it a shot.

1) I didn't say his stats weren't good.
2) I didn't say that I wanted Burks to become a pure catch and shoot player.
3) I would be wrong if I had asserted either of those things, but I didn't.

Was this a deliberate scarecrow argument because you have some axe to grind, or are you really that dense?
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Just have to know if this was deliberate. I assume and pray yes.
 
freakazoid said:
You should try watching the documentary on half-court basketball.

It's called Two Teams, One Cup.
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You should try watching this:
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I have gone from being ok with Ty to actually being impressed with him. He seemed to make the right moves against the Cavs, left the hot hand in the game, Millsap, in the first half when he could have subbed him out, matched up pretty well, and seemed to get a lot out of the guys tonight. Nice job overall.
 
Coach Ty is doin' fine. He seems to be pushing at least MOST of the right buttons. I admit I cringed when he subbed CJ after Favors/Millsap both fouled out (no Jeremey Evans?), but the Jazz ran a great play to get CJ wide open and he nailed a 3 right in rhythm. Guess that's why we're just fans and Ty's the coach!!
 
Seven games into his first season with the Timberwolves, coach Rick Adelman already has reached a grim conclusion.

Adelman admitted Saturday, a day after the Wolves' most troubling loss of the young season, that he's up against the biggest challenge of his 21-year NBA coaching career to transform this team into a winner - or one that can at least execute fundamental phases of his system at both ends of the floor.

"I've never had a situation like this," Adelman said. "The stuff we're trying to run...we're not getting anything compared to what I'm normally used to seeing."

Adelman's high standards are becoming an issue for the Wolves (2-5), who play at winless Washington (0-7) today in the first of three games in three days.

After the Wolves completed a 2-4 homestand Friday night with a demoralizing 98-87 loss to Cleveland, Adelman said he's not sure about his next move. Does he scale his system back even further to simplify things for the players? Or does he stick with his limited game plan and continue to press them on better ballhandling and shot selection?
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