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If Favors is never the same Favors again...

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and can't stay healthy, who can we get going forward really beyond this year?

What 4 is there in the 2017 draft that plays both ways and has some athleticism, length and a decent low-post game?

Are there any 4's in the league who we could perhaps acquire?
 
Cunning Linguist said:
and can't stay healthy, who can we get going forward really beyond this year?

What 4 is there in the 2017 draft that plays both ways and has some athleticism, length and a decent low-post game?

Are there any 4's in the league who we could perhaps acquire?
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Jarrett Allen (I think he will improve his offense in a hurry)
Ivan Rabb
 
Dr. Jones said:
Millsap!
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I've thought about this a bunch the past couple weeks. I just don't think we could. He'll be 32 in February (and is making near 20M) and I think we've seen the best we've seen of him and that his prime now wouldn't coincide with our target championship future which to me is two years out.
 
I really don't think it's wise to pass judgement on Favors for this year, he's earned the benefit of the doubt.. dude was clearly hobbled/missing lift. Anyway ya slice it he's still underpaid..

As for players in the draft to replace him, there's some nice possibilities, the possibilities in the 2018 draft are greater though. Generally speaking these bigs are more raw..

Jarrett Allen definitely fits the description. He's even longer than Favors and also possesses the recovery speed we've seen from Favors over the years in protecting the rim. quick feet. quick lift.

There are others but for now I'm going to suggest Isaiah Hartenstein.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCfrVPO1uGk



Lauri Markannen would also qualify but it's safe to say he'll be out of the Jazz range IMO.
 
Jonathan Jeanne doesn't exactly fit the 'some low-post offense' part but he's very capable of crashing the offensive glass. He's a PF thru and thru and extremely mobile/coordinated - runs like a gazelle and I think an NBA team will list him at 7'3"..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEInf1-r3mc&t=47s
(here's some newer footage)

His wingspan is longer than Porzingis, maybe by 3+inches, so the Jazz could truly present easily the longest frontcourt in NBA history when he's ready....

Also there's a striking resemblance between him and Rudy.. Jeanne is from Guadelupe, which is where Rudy's father was from..
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Would anyone be down to role the dice and extend him for less due to injury risk with the possibility that he may have a few years without injury. Not sure if a team like the Jazz could take that risk I'm sure DL is considering all options at this point.
 
tonstermits said:
Would anyone be down to role the dice and extend him for less due to injury risk with the possibility that he may have a few years without injury. Not sure if a team like the Jazz could take that risk I'm sure DL is considering all options at this point.
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Of course.
 
Can someone name a player who had any kind of recurring injury, that wasnt the result of major surgery, that had their career completely ruined because of it?
 
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tonstermits said:
Would anyone be down to role the dice and extend him for less due to injury risk with the possibility that he may have a few years without injury. Not sure if a team like the Jazz could take that risk I'm sure DL is considering all options at this point.
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For sure. If he wants to give a decent size discount then i would definitely want the jazz to take the risk.
 
I don't think Favors will be extended. We need to extend Hill and don't have room for both. I do believe he will be re-signed in Utah, once his contract expires after next season. By then, we'll have a better idea of how much he can stay healthy.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Can someone name a player who had any kind of recurring injury, that wasnt the result of major surgery, that had their career completely ruined because of it?
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Yeah, I don't get the panic of some fans with Favors. It's not like he's torn both ACLs along with the Achilles or something... Both of his injuries are relatively minor ones, although debilitating while they last. I don't know why we should assume his health long-term is in question.

With that said, I want to see him slim down a bit. Big bodies don't stay healthy in the league. Too much wear and tear. Even LeBron slimmed down to extend his career. There is no reason he should be 270 in nowadays game. I think he'd be awesome and even quicker and more athletic at 250-255.
 
Favors will be back and he will be back to his level of play or better.

If for some odd reason he is not this team should not be looking at next years draft to fill his spot. Rookies do not help teams win. A 19 year does not fit with this team unless we land someone with superstar potential we should be looking at a trade or a FA to fill his spot. Someone that fits with the rest of the team and their timeline. A rookie might be okay to fill out the roster and play some spot minutes but not much more on a winning team.
 
Here's a thought... It doesn't directly involve Favors, but it would affect him.

Jazz Trade: Alec Burks and Jeff Withey

Philadelphia Trades: Nerlens Noel and Ersan Ilyasova

Why the sixers do it?

76ers get space for Okafor (who they prefer to Noel) and Embid with a cheap, decent backup (Withey). They pick up a really quality piece on a great contract who has been injured plenty... for what? A player who they may waive and a 1 year rental on a spot they are overloaded at. They haven't been playing Ersan much at all. 76ers get something for very little risk. They are swapping a crowded position and a player they don't plan to resign for an affordable asset who is risky due to injuries. They can afford to take a swing on Burks who if healthy may be their best player in 2017.

Why the Jazz do it?

Jazz rent Noel, clear cap space to be able to resign Hayward and Hill next year, and don't drop off defense while Favors is hurt. Favors becomes more expendable if we resign Noel instead of Favors. Favors has pressure to get healthy and perform. Ersan is a vet, helps us stretch the floor, and better now off the bench than Burks has been all season. We are basically moving on from the off injured Burks for financial flexibility, additional depth now for 2016, and flexiblity regarding Favor's situation. At the least having Noel is a bargaining chip in extending Favors.

https://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine
 
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