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i'm quite disgusted with the NBA refs tonight turning a blind eye to westbrook's actions.

So if Gobert throws a bunch or high elbow that connects on Russ during the skirmish both guys get suspended right? Guy just got hit in the nuts... wants to get at Felton and Russ comes from the sideline and puts his hands on Rudy aggressively... could have easily escalated... this is about $$$$ and extending the series and one dude being a superstar and don’t tell me it is anything more than that.

If they are willing to go to these lengths to bends rules and materially affect the game in the open where people can see them... then what goes on behind closed doors to benefit the league’s revenue goals? This type of stuff gives all those tin foil helmet arguments some actual teeth.
 
The rule is being interpreted in favor of an allstar... again. When will the league stop this. It truly is what pushes fans away over time. Let competition play out regardless of status. The rule was broken. Period. The fact that they interpreted it differently in this case shows " stars are above the law" in many cases.

Do I want Westbrook suspended for the next game? Nah... that would give OKC an excuse when they lose on their home court again. But did he break the rule? Absolutely.
 
And the refs clearly recognized that OKC instigating all of that crap was intentional. It was strategic to get the jazz off kilter. But instead of calling it the way it was, we ended up with more techs and the only player thrown out. They swallowed their whistle the second half of the game on Westbrook. IT WAS A BLOW OUT and they still protected him. On our home court. Westbrook not only came in off the bench to instigate but he slapped Gobert's arm. He didn't receive so much as consideration of a tech.

CY IS THE REAL VICTIM!!!
 
Just heard Locke say there wasn’t really an altercation... an altercation is a loud public argument... 3 techs were handed out in a non altercation.

It’s a rule that has always been black and white and interpreted harshly even in very serious circumstances... it’s just troubling the excuse they give and the fact that most are willing to just accept that “they aren’t suspending him for that” it’s the same folks that accept “they aren’t calling that obvious foul on the last play” or “they won’t call CP3 for mugging guys because he’s CP3... he always gets those calls”

Watch the series get extended and the nba will bring in Marc Davis, Kane Fitzgerald, and Dick Bavettas retired old *** to officiate the last game. Gets them a game 7.... revenue bitches.
 
Kane Fitzgerald and Ed Malloy are your officials tonight... u thought last game was an officiating **** show... wait for tonight.
 
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This thread is every negative stereotype about Jazz fans. Keep crying about the refs while we are up 3-1 in a series.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
This thread is every negative stereotype about Jazz fans. Keep crying about the refs while we are up 3-1 in a series.
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I don’t think that being up 3-1 equals good officiating.

I think the officiating has been bad and it’s ok to discuss it. We are the better team and okc has been struggling. Series would probably be over already if the officials called it even in game 1 tbh.
 
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fishonjazz said:
I don’t think that being up 3-1 equals good officiating.

I think the officiating has been bad and it’s ok to discuss it. We are the better team and okc has been struggling. Series would probably be over already if the officials called it even in game 1 tbh.
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I think the officiating has been excellent and overall, if anything, has favored the Jazz.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
This thread is every negative stereotype about Jazz fans. Keep crying about the refs while we are up 3-1 in a series.
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Reason and logic are not “crying”... you are the one complaining about people here... I’m just laying out facts, history, and reason.

I’m sorry none of this makes sense and I’m not willing to just accept the “it’s a technicality” argument. It isn’t a technicality and RW even violates the reason behind the rule. If they are willing to say the rule is flawed and we are going to try and fix it later that’s cool. This type of thing should not swing a series... but im smart enough to see through the BS and think they should be called on it. It didn’t stop them before and if everyone just accepts it they are giving tacit approval and the league office can go further and further.

This type of technicality has cost a couple teams a chance at a title... I’m simply pointing out inconsistency and saying it may be a symptom of a bigger problem.
 
Jack Strop said:
Agree with Cy. The rule is designed to stop players from running into a fight from the bench. I wonder if a Jazz player like Ingles or Gobert had been the offender if the letter of the law posters would be insisting the Jazz player be suspended for a game.
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They would not have to insist on it because the player would have been suspended. Yeah, they might be crying about how it didn't warrant a suspension, but they would have no real argument to back them up because the rule couldn't possibly be any clearer.

That said, I'm glad they didn't suspend him because it will be more satisfying to beat them with him in, and because they are probably worse with him in. And although I think the rule should be rewritten (imposing a one game suspension for something like this or Stoudamire's play is too much) I definitely think he should have been thrown out of the game. He committed numerous technicals and way more than 6 fouls, but the refs swallowed their whistles because it was Westbrook.
 
Tak said:
Whoa! Game 6 nearly 100% confirmed.
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Kane is just really bad and has a history with Quin... that said he gave KAT the quick hook in that Minny game (another chippy game). Just don’t know that he’s the guy u want officiating a close out game in a physical chippy series. It could go either way with him... he’s just a wild card.

Honestly Ed Malloy is not my favorite but I only was made aware of him because of the Minny radio guy going bat **** crazy on him in hilarious fashion.

I will set the over under at 7 techs tonight.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
They would not have to insist on it because the player would have been suspended. Yeah, they might be crying about how it didn't warrant a suspension, but they would have no real argument to back them up because the rule couldn't possibly be any clearer.

That said, I'm glad they didn't suspend him because it will be more satisfying to beat them with him in, and because they are probably worse with him in. And although I think the rule should be rewritten (imposing a one game suspension for something like this or Stoudamire's play is too much) I definitely think he should have been thrown out of the game. He committed numerous technicals and way more than 6 fouls, but the refs swallowed their whistles because it was Westbrook.
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Super rational and I agree... I’m simply pointing out that this isn’t a gray area... RW effed up and he knows it... go ahead and let him play but don’t insult my intelligence or just don’t have stupid rules. It sucks that he did it with the wrong intentions and the league looks away... while CJ did it to pull a player away took five steps and then went back to the bench and lost $165k... it sucks Phoenix lost a potential championship... so let him play and say we need to fix this... sometimes **** ain’t that hard to fix.
 
MVP said:
That dude is such a shill for NBA I would not be surprised if somebody one day will punch him in the face.
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I do think if you believe in conspiracy theory though the NBA may want the Jazz to win and send PG to resurrect LA.

Maybe this non suspension was a recognition that the league really hosed this team over with two CBA changes.

The rule puts the league in a dumb spot... just change it already.
 
MVP said:
Win or lose PG is not staying in OKC. That is not a championship level team talent or coaching wise.
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I would not like playing with Westbrook or hanging out with him... he seems like a miserable dude. I’d rather hang with Joey English, Rick Curry, DM, and outer dudes... like who is the least likable jazz guy that you wouldn’t want to be friends with?

PG will and should bail... although I’d want to be homies with Steven Adams... I can’t help but like him... I’m sorry.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think the officiating has been excellent and overall, if anything, has favored the Jazz.
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The officiating in several games has been horrific but it has not favored either team. Game 4 was the worst officiating I have seen in years and I think in general that NBA officials do a good job (other than on traveling calls). All of that being said, Russ clearly broke a rule that has a clearly spelled out consequence and they gave him a pass. It might be the right thing to do but it is indisputable that he was given a pass.
 
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