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write4u

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I don't how other people feel, but ever since 1998, I've hated David Stern. The allowance of the Jordan rules and the "star" treatment by refs (I know Karl and John benefited too at times) has been very frustrating to me and other fans. Now this heavy-handed dealing by him in preventing the Chris Paul trade has just taken his dictatorship too far. He IS acting like a slave trader. The offers to the Hornets have been more than fair, and then some. In fact, he's hurting the Hornets because Paul will be leaving next year if he doesn't get traded. I think the overwhelming majority of fans agree with me, judging by a poll I saw on Realgm. Maybe we ought to start a petition to the NBA calling for Stern to resign. Send it through Chris Broussard of ESPN who seems to be very ticked off by this.
 
Great idea. Let the players run the league. Get rid of the cap and just let them all choose which team they want to play for. That oughta fix things.
 
write4u said:
I don't how other people feel, but ever since 1998, I've hated David Stern. The allowance of the Jordan rules and the "star" treatment by refs (I know Karl and John benefited too at times) has been very frustrating to me and other fans. Now this heavy-handed dealing by him in preventing the Chris Paul trade has just taken his dictatorship too far. He IS acting like a slave trader. The offers to the Hornets have been more than fair, and then some. In fact, he's hurting the Hornets because Paul will be leaving next year if he doesn't get traded. I think the overwhelming majority of fans agree with me, judging by a poll I saw on Realgm. Maybe we ought to start a petition to the NBA calling for Stern to resign. Send it through Chris Broussard of ESPN who seems to be very ticked off by this.
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I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, I think Stern greatly overreached. I don't blame everyone, particularly the Hornets, for being pissed. On the other hand, I hate the Lakers with a white hot passion, and I don't want Paul on the team. (I do think in the longer run Lakers would benefit from trade--Odom and Gasol are on the downward slope while Paul is heading into his prime.) So anything Stern or anyone can do to screw the Lakers is fine with me. I do worry, however, that in some twisted way, this will increase the Laker's odds of landing Howard. God, I'd hate that.
 
I believe, ultimately, David Stern has done more good for the NBA than most commissioners have done for their sport. But he has made some odd decisions.
 
Completely wrong. Stern has been a great ambassador to the sport of basketball. I think he is really smart and a good guy. Not joking either. Don't let the selfish greedy players sway your opinion. Stern declined the first trade because he wasn't getting any young rebuilding pieces. The Hornets would be easier to sell if they looked like they had a promising future. Stern has been trying hard to create competitive balance. He has never said he wants to control where any players goes. He just wants to make it so that not all the all-stars end up on the same teams. It's for the good of the league. And the players are so selfish that they could care less about the health of the league. If the players had their way they would completely destroy the league. They are doing their best to do so right now. I don't want to watch a lopsided league. And team owners don't want to do business in that type of league either. You really think the NBA would be better off with a 4 team league? No! The only way everyone in the NBA makes the money they do is because of the amount of teams in the league.
 
There's nothing that will push Stern out quicker than a member of the media with a collection of signatures that has more 13 year olds on it than Justin Bieber concert.
 
Stern and co shouldn't have caved.

Screw this season. Half a season is still stupid.

I would have rather lost this entire season and fixed the system (to be more like the NFL) than to have 2/3rds of this season and another 8 years of nonsense.

Does anyone here really believe that Favors is going to finish his career with the Jazz? At first opportunity, he's going to be eaten up by a big market team such as the Lakers.

The Paul, Howard, Billups, etc situations all show how f-ed up this league truly is. Other than the MLB, can you think of a worse league? It's bad... Real bad... When the inmates and big markets rule the asylum.
 
The Thriller said:
Does anyone here really believe that Favors is going to finish his career with the Jazz? At first opportunity, he's going to be eaten up by a big market team such as the Lakers.
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Like most top picks, the Jazz will likely have Favors for 7 seasons (unless they decide to ship him off, as they did with Deron). If the Jazz are competitive at that point, he'll likely re-up again (just as Boozer would have, had the Jazz decided to pay him).
 
GVC said:
Like most top picks, the Jazz will likely have Favors for 7 seasons (unless they decide to ship him off, as they did with Deron). If the Jazz are competitive at that point, he'll likely re-up again (just as Boozer would have, had the Jazz decided to pay him).
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Cleveland was competitive before LeBron left. Nuggets were a playoff team before Carmello requested a trade. Orlando went to the Finals a few years ago, yet Dwight apparently wants something different.

Even if we're championship material in a few years, no way we can assume he sticks around. Regardless, I think the Jazz will handle these types of situations much better than most of the league.
 
Ironic isn't it? Stern made these guys and now they think they can manage a leauge better than him so they are after his head.

Not a big fan of Stern, never have been. He is often criticized for coming across as arrogant and condescending, I think that can be mainly attributed to the fact that he is arrogant and condescending. But even the the most ignorant of haters, I'm talking to you Deron, has to admit that Stern may have earned the right to flex his muscles a little bit. He is resposible for managing a once afterthought league into the #2 sport and #1 TV nightime drama. The system he followed for marketing players above teams or coaches, and creating NBA drama at every turn has made players, coaches and owners insanley rich. Highest paid team rosters in the world or something like that. Players like D-Will, and writers like Boussard hate Stern because he does what they do, bully to get his way, but Stern is like the biggest, highest , smartest, alpha bully in all their worlds, it must drive them nuts that they can't take him down.
 
infection said:
There's nothing that will push Stern out quicker than a member of the media with a collection of signatures that has more 13 year olds on it than Justin Bieber concert.
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Not possible. Her concerts draw more 13 year olds than anything else possibly can.
 
I believe Stern has said that he has headed up his last CBA anyways. I'm assuming that means he will retire sometime in the near future. So you have already got your wish.
 
write4u, I believe that Stockton and Malone teams got screwed by the refs more than any other sports team in our lifetimes.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, I think Stern greatly overreached. I don't blame everyone, particularly the Hornets, for being pissed. On the other hand, I hate the Lakers with a white hot passion, and I don't want Paul on the team. (I do think in the longer run Lakers would benefit from trade--Odom and Gasol are on the downward slope while Paul is heading into his prime.) So anything Stern or anyone can do to screw the Lakers is fine with me. I do worry, however, that in some twisted way, this will increase the Laker's odds of landing Howard. God, I'd hate that.
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Agree. The dumping of Odom - to the Mavs, no less - was certainly done with some other move in mind. That, combined with the Magic allowing Howard to talk to the Lakers, leads me to believe a deal is imminent.

I hate the Lakers. But on face value, it seemed nothing was amiss about that deal. In fact, Stern SHOULD have vetoed the Pau Gasol trade since it included a "retired" player. Remember, other teams have tried the same thing, but the league office nixed every one of those proposals - until it came to the Lakers. Stern only vetoed the trade when other owners complained. I have no respect for Stern; he might be one of the most corrupt commissioners ever.
 
freakazoid said:
Great idea. Let the players run the league. Get rid of the cap and just let them all choose which team they want to play for. That oughta fix things.
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....the NBA is a joke already and has been for 10 years plus! When the hip hop era took control.....the tattooed, "me first" pay me $100,000 a game regardless of how poor I play, gun toting punks dominated the rosters, the game went further into the crapper! Sterns, by the way, stopped the trade more at the direction of all the owners than himself. I think Sterns is ready to throw up his hands (and throw up his stomach!) and get out!
 
Why do people keep saying NO had no rebuilding pieces? They had Goran Dragic and a first-rounder. Dragic is a second-tier PG and possible future All-Star, and actually a year younger than Chris Paul.

Was Paul dictating? Not any more than Deron. He's in the last year of his contract and not happy. So, how is that dictating? If anything, he's just being honest and giving the Hornets the chance to get something instead of nothing. How much better the Lakers got, if they did, is debateable, but the Hornets got a ton better.
 
Stern is a terrible commish. I have wanted him gone for years.

The star treatment. Non accountability for referee's. Promoting players over teams. And a lot of other things have ruined the play and game of NBA basketball.

The league even owning a team is stupidity to the max. Talk about a conflict of interest.

The NBA would be a lot better off right now if Stern had not been the commish all of these years.
 
I struggle to have much sympathy for Stern.

I don't look at him as this poor ol commish that is being raped by his own players.

I see him more as Frankenstein who is discovering only now, the monster he created.

The promotion of players, the promotion of big markets, the hip hop culture, the lack of accountability from so many people (from owners to refs), etc.

The NBA has been in decline for a long time. The star treatment and the letting of players do whatever they wanted.

Look @ how the NFL is run. 99 percent of the nonsense that flies in the NBA would have been stomped out and killed by the NFL's dude.

You cannot let the players run your league! Too bad Stern is finding this out all too quickly...
 
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