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NAOS

NAOS

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I'm drooling over Collins' game plan for the first game of the semifinals series with Boston.

Basically, if you can handle the ball and you have it in your hands, he's telling you to push it the length of the floor against an aging defense (but one that is still very effective if they have time to get set).

I also like how Collins is using his mis-matches... playing small-ball for stretches, but also using Turner as a primary ball handler at times.

I can't help but feel sick that Corbin wouldn't be making any of these decisions.

GRANTED, IT'S ONLY ONE HALF OF BASKETBALL, BUT I LIKE IT.
 
what I liked was that Philly has ballhandlers at 1-3 and they are all good rebounders, too. If any one of them gets a defensive rebound, the orders were to unwaveringly push it all the way to the paint. The Jazz have the ability to do this, and they rarely do.
 
I like Philly, but they suffer from having too many ballhandlers imo. They don't have enough shooters or big men who can score.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I like Philly, but they suffer from having too many ballhandlers imo. They don't have enough shooters or big men who can score.
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Cy, I'm trying to make this thread about things I like. You can make it about an argument that only you see if you want to... but I probably won't participate.

Is it good to have big guys that can score and to balance an aggressive transition attack with some half-court execution? Find me a guy that says NO to both of these questions and I'll happily moderate the debate you want to have.

As it stands, we can get rid of Jefferson and still have better half-court and low post scoring than Philly. The point is that Philly almost stole a game IN BOSTON, and the Jazz got blown out in 4 straight games. Perhaps they can take some lesson from Philly? Perhaps? Perhaps? That is the point of this thread.

I'm going to make a Mad Lib out of this post and paste it in every thread in which you try to be "level-headed."
 
I don't see how comparing Corbin coaching the Jazz against the Spurs to Collins coaching the 6ers against the Celtics is fair or relevant. Hayward can't handle the ball like Iggy. Burks is no Turner...

Philadelphia had a better winning record on the road than the #3 ranked LA Lakers.
 
franklin said:
I don't see how comparing Corbin coaching the Jazz against the Spurs to Collins coaching the 6ers against the Celtics is fair or relevant. Hayward can't handle the ball like Iggy. Burks is no Turner...

Philadelphia had a better winning record on the road than the #3 ranked LA Lakers.
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I don't see how Philly's road success isn't partially the result of coaching. I don't see how our road woes aren't partially a result of coaching.

I see two aging teams in the Spurs and Celtics whose Achilles heels MIGHT HAVE BEEN attacking them before their half-court defenses were set.
I see Burks and Hayward as two good rebounders for their position.
I think they can handle the ball.
Like Philly, we have inconsistent shooting and inexperience.

This is enough for me to sketch out a few thoughts.
 
I get the comps and we've been in agreement on the Jazz attacking the Spurs fast. I just don't think Celtics are on par with Spurs and I don't see the 6ers as an 8th seed on par with a Jazz 8th seed. The Jazz overachieved to get into the playoffs and I credit coaching for that. The sixers were a much better team early on and fell to the 8th seed and I blame coaching for that too.

Here's a video that puts things into perspective for me. The Jazz didn't have anyone who could do this to the Spurs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luWvJE8lob8
 
I hope Burks will be capable of many of those things very very soon. Hayward needs to get there, too. He needs to get much better anywhere from 8 feet and in. Damn, I think DMiller could come in and do the same kinds of things. Or, perhaps we go after Iggy himself.
 
The Fresh Prince said:
No. No. Noooooo.

I know why you are doing this.
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Dude, I like Turner, but let's not overrate the guy. He isn't that good. He is a bad defender, can't shoot, and doesn't get to the foul line. He has had a good playoff thus far, but he still isn't that good.
 
NAOS said:
Cy, I'm trying to make this thread about things I like. You can make it about an argument that only you see if you want to... but I probably won't participate.

Is it good to have big guys that can score and to balance an aggressive transition attack with some half-court execution? Find me a guy that says NO to both of these questions and I'll happily moderate the debate you want to have.

As it stands, we can get rid of Jefferson and still have better half-court and low post scoring than Philly. The point is that Philly almost stole a game IN BOSTON, and the Jazz got blown out in 4 straight games. Perhaps they can take some lesson from Philly? Perhaps? Perhaps? That is the point of this thread.

I'm going to make a Mad Lib out of this post and paste it in every thread in which you try to be "level-headed."
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Uhh, you are aware Boston isn't that great and the Spurs are that great?

Not trying to make an argument. I just stated my opinion on a forum. I'm sorry if it didn't agree with what you thought.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Dude, I like Turner, but let's not overrate the guy. He isn't that good. He is a bad defender, can't shoot, and doesn't get to the foul line. He has had a good playoff thus far, but he still isn't that good.
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What on earth has Alec Burks proven? His sophomore season could be wonderful, and we can all say Turner is not the heir to Burks, but Evan Turner is proving himself well. He rebounds well, you said it yourself for his height and position. His midrange game is underrated. He is playing on another level in the playoffs. He's on a higher learning procedure, and he's finding his chi at the professional level. We are just saying Burks is better than Evan Turner off homerish potential. Not off stats. WE all think Burks is going to come in next year and prove himself, right? Maybe that doesn't happen, and his shot selection is still on par with CJ Miles...

Saying Evan Turner is better than Burks is not overrating him, it's just a fact, for now... lets hope.
 
Watching game. Holiday blatantly doesn't shoot last second half-court shot to end the 3rd to preserve his 3/5 3pt shooting performance.

I remember when Harris did that and everyone on the board went nuts. He actually had a defender right in front of him, Holiday was open.
 
What the hell did Doc Rivers just do? Down by one, 4.4 second shot differential, and he has Rondo foul at 10 seconds to put 14 back on the clock and wipe the differential away. Let's see if it works.
 
franklin said:
What the hell did Doc Rivers just do? Down by one, 4.4 second shot differential, and he has Rondo foul at 10 seconds to put 14 back on the clock and wipe the differential away. Let's see if it works.
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It was idiotic. Doc changed his mind after 10 seconds run off. If you are going to play the FT game, do it early as possible.


ALSO, HOLY **** THEY ACTUALLY CALLED A MOVING SCREEN ON KG ON A LAST POSSESSION OF A GAME! Thank you NBA refs, for not being a total piece of stinky ****.

Now do this every game on every play and Kevin Garnett and the Celtics will probably lose the series because he would foul out in the 1st 6 minutes of the game.
 
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