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In the interest of perpetuating bad trade ideas...

Both are not the most efficient and cannot lead a team. It obv wasn't a 1:1 comparison.
Lol. So you are calling Hayward a broke man's inefficient player who cannot lead a team? Harsh.

Although in some ways I'd think that the less good a player is at being inefficient and lacking leadership, the better.
 
Hayward's not worth $30M.
He's not particularly good at shooting 3's.
There's a HUGE risk of him leaving.

I'm all for getting a good return on him before he bolts, especially if 2017 picks are part of the deal.

Sign or draft a SF to replace him or get that player in the trade.
 
I like stitches plan too.
Hayward and 12
For
Nick and 2

... And there's some rumors that Ingram may come off the board leaving Simmons at 2.


No chance. Brett Brown coached Simmons' dad, has known Ben since birth and coached him as well. They have a close relationship.

Did that surgery go poorly or are you just no longer in the loop?
 
Who is Brett Brown? That is all that one needs to know.. This isn't Pop or Phil Jackson. Just because he knows Simmons means very little. Brown most likely will not be the coach in Philly in 2 years anyway.. They could take Simmons but to mark it in stone because the coach coached his pops is just plain silly


No chance. Brett Brown coached Simmons' dad, has known Ben since birth and coached him as well. They have a close relationship.

Did that surgery go poorly or are you just no longer in the loop?
 
Id make the trade because I think Thomas is very good and you could play Exum and him together
Murray I don't see him being an all star level ever. To slow. Needs to go work out with Reggie Miller, rip Hamilton and learn how to come off and use the screens. He is never going be able to dribble and pull up in the NBA. Just don't see him as a star. He has the body frame he can get stronger. Body wise he reminds me of Nick Anderson a little bit. Stocky and big shoulders but Nick was a beast and I have not seen that out of Murray.

I like the comp but Murray is smaller.
 
Who is Brett Brown? That is all that one needs to know.. This isn't Pop or Phil Jackson. Just because he knows Simmons means very little. Brown most likely will not be the coach in Philly in 2 years anyway.. They could take Simmons but to mark it in stone because the coach coached his pops is just plain silly

He's actually a really good coach imo who's had **** talent and is finally getting some.
 
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