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Is Burks superfluous now?

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I was just thinking, we have seen some growth from this team, added a few pieces, and are seeing success, largely without Burks the last couple of seasons. Has Burks injured himself out of relevancy? Is he the real trade bait, get him back healthy let him get solid minutes to up the stock then trade off for future assets so we can hold onto the core and run with what we have? The way I see it now he will demand minutes that will disrupt whatever chemistry we have going when (if?) he returns this season. He may just be the odd man out, but still worth some solid assets in a trade deadline deal.
 
I'm to the point where I hope if the Jazz get any sort of solid offer for him, I hope they jump on it.
 
It's called depth, which is nice to have until Utah can't afford it. I don't see Burks on the team past his contract, not because of the injuries, but because that money has to be spent on the starters.

So yes, I agree with loggrad; get him healthy and then look for s trade.
 
I really hope that Alec Burks gets back to healthy, because he is James Harden-lite with the ball in his hands. With Hayward, Joe Johnson, Burks, and (maybe) Lyles you would have 4 playmakers that you could close the game with either Gobert or Favors. If you needed a bucket any of those 4 at the same time could be a nightmare.

But if he keeps missing the majority of each season he's going to become CJ Miles. Every year the FO saying stuff like, "well if you look at his games played, he's still technically in his 3rd year." Like we kept hearing that "if CJ had gone to college he'd only be a senior by now."
 
Exum, Burks, Johnson, and Lyles is an awesome second unit. I think Burks will still be useful once he's back.
 
If he can get healthy, his contract is too good. Until we win a championship, he's not superfluous. If we need to make room to sign Hill etc., then let's do it. We have a lot of decisions to make in the near future, so having someone with his contract may be very helpful if we have to let some of our younger players walk. I assume we will have Favors, Gobert, and Hayward on max/near max contracts. Add Hill, and how do we sign Hood, Exum, or Lyles? Burks could be a great solution if Hood gets max contract money. No advantage in trading him right now. His value has to be the lowest it will be really ever.
 
We have Burks locked down for 2 more seasons after this one for around 11 million. We would need to get one helluva offer to trade him.
 
Trade Burks for the most you can get and throw money at Hill (wish Burks was healthy though). I can't remember if it was on here or ESPN but someone said Burks has only played 65% of all games since being drafted
 
Magic Spray said:
I really hope that Alec Burks gets back to healthy, because he is James Harden-lite with the ball in his hands. With Hayward, Joe Johnson, Burks, and (maybe) Lyles you would have 4 playmakers that you could close the game with either Gobert or Favors. If you needed a bucket any of those 4 at the same time could be a nightmare.

But if he keeps missing the majority of each season he's going to become CJ Miles. Every year the FO saying stuff like, "well if you look at his games played, he's still technically in his 3rd year." Like we kept hearing that "if CJ had gone to college he'd only be a senior by now."
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Burks isn't closing games for this team anytime soon. Not unless he's having an insane game and somebody else is having an off game. Hill, Hayward, Hood, Johnson, and Lyles are all far more likely to finish games with Favors and/or Gobert than Burks is. I'm to the point where he's become Ante Tomic to me. If he eventually plays great, if not no loss we've never really had him anyway.
 
gregbroncs said:
Burks isn't closing games for this team anytime soon. Not unless he's having an insane game and somebody else is having an off game. Hill, Hayward, Hood, Johnson, and Lyles are all far more likely to finish games with Favors and/or Gobert than Burks is. I'm to the point where he's become Ante Tomic to me. If he eventually plays great, if not no loss we've never really had him anyway.
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This actually gets at my primary concern. I know his contract is decent and his value is relatively low right now, but if we have this revolving door in the starting lineup due to his return/reinjury cycle that will jack up chemistry for a team that is outperforming itself in this young season. This team, with no true superstar or really star to look to for stability and support needs continuity instead. Get a starting lineup and reliable rotation set. That lets players get comfortable in the system and have the most confidence in themselves and as a team. I am worried about Burks return messing with that.
 
LogGrad98 said:
This actually gets at my primary concern. I know his contract is decent and his value is relatively low right now, but if we have this revolving door in the starting lineup due to his return/reinjury cycle that will jack up chemistry for a team that is outperforming itself in this young season. This team, with no true superstar or really star to look to for stability and support needs continuity instead. Get a starting lineup and reliable rotation set. That lets players get comfortable in the system and have the most confidence in themselves and as a team. I am worried about Burks return messing with that.
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I'm not sure I'd call what the Jazz are doing so far as "outperforming" themselves.
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He's a bench player for this team. I think bench players need to accept that their minutes will vary and that they will need to be ready at all times. So I'm not as concerned about the continuity of the bench as you seem to be. I think with or without Burks we have a tremendous amount of depth on this team.
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I will say this, I think I'd rather have Ingles and Exum get minutes than Burks. I've never been sold on him as a team oriented player and while he can get his own he doesn't move the ball as well as Ingles. And he doesn't have the upside of Exum.
 
I get why people are wanting to trade him now, but why not wait until we absolutely have to clear cap space to resign other guys? I mean, we're 11 mil under the cap right now, his value is at an all-time low, and he's on a great contract compared to what teams are paying other guys. There's no reason to rush into trading him for a future 2nd or something like that.
 
This is the best spacing we've ever had, and now some think our best rim-runner is superfluous? I, for one, am pretty interested in what he can do with this group.
 
we need wing-depth and Alec brings a unique skill-set to this team. Trading him when his value is lowest would be moronic
 
David Stern said:
I get why people are wanting to trade him now, but why not wait until we absolutely have to clear cap space to resign other guys? I mean, we're 11 mil under the cap right now, his value is at an all-time low, and he's on a great contract compared to what teams are paying other guys. There's no reason to rush into trading him for a future 2nd or something like that.
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Who's saying trade him now? I wasn't, nor I think the OP.
 
NAOS said:
This is the best spacing we've ever had, and now some think our best rim-runner is superfluous? I, for one, am pretty interested in what he can do with this group.
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Burks was getting to the rim when Hayward was having to pull out every move in his arsenal just to get a mid range jumper. Burks is going to be nasty with this group.
 
Alec Burks contract is staggeringly cheap for the type of production he can provide when healthy. He's not going anywhere.
 
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