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Is Obama a Natural Born US Citizen?

Is Obama A Natural Born US Citizen?

  • No, I'm a crazy *** birther

    Votes: 2 8.3%

  • Yes, I'm a blind follower

    Votes: 8 33.3%

  • Maybe, but he's hiding something.

    Votes: 5 20.8%

  • Who gives a rat's ***

    Votes: 5 20.8%

  • Whatever Kicky says

    Votes: 4 16.7%
  • Total voters
    24
  • Poll closed .
colton said:
How many people with PhDs do you actually know? I know quite a few, and very, very few of them are pretentious.
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Is this the magic confirmation bias kicky was throwing around?

;)
 
fotosynthesis said:
I work with a couple PhDs. They won't respond if I don't address them with the title Dr. Pretentious ********.
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"Paging Dr. ******." No, but really that bothers me more than anything ever (possible exaggeration) when people HAVE to be addressed as "Doctor".
 
Sirkickyass said:
No, I have not spent 14+ years living in another country. Have you? However, I am pretty sure significant numbers of what we think of as great works of comparative political and anthropological study occur while spending less time than that in the country. Alexis de Tocqueville spent only 9 months in the United States before writing "Democracy in America," which is widely regarded as incisive and significantly socially predictive of American society. Classic examples of ethnology study (Montaigne on cannibalism, or Levi-Strauss' work on universal taboos) have been done with far less than 14 years of living in another country.
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Sirkickyass said:
Or you could invest even a modium of effort and explain why my examples were inapplicable to your argument. But you didn't.

Very persuasive.
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Like the effort you invested plopping out examples irrelevant to the discussion? Using professionals who've been trained to study and report on an issue as examples of why Log is wrong may have sounded good inside your head, but they're nothing more than common hackery to any rational observer. Hackery, Huckleberry.

You may receive a substantive answer after exhibiting the slightest bit of insight on the implications of allegiances held by the commander of the world's largest army. You're completely one-sided here, so you've been discarded as biased and irrelevant. But you're used to that.
 
larryselbows said:
Hard for me to argue with that. Sorry.
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that was a quickie cave-in. . . . .

Look, it's like "rep": if you've got it, flaunt it.

Unless your Ph.D. isn't just an isolatied "personal validity indicator". . . . . It's also a situational thing where local actors sorta set the trend. Colton must be in a more down-to-earth neck of the woods than, say, fotosynthesis.
 
franklin said:
You may receive a substantive answer after exhibiting the slightest bit of insight on the implications of allegiances held by the commander of the world's largest army.
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Do you believe he has allegiences to any country that are remotely comparable to his allegiance to the United States? Do you believe there is any remotely credible evidence that is the case?

Of course there is a fair to good chance that this was written after a bender. If so, please disregard.
 
One Brow said:
Again, why does having more information make it more reliable?
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Well a form of ID that only said "Male" would not identify me as reliably as one that said "Male/Caucasian, Brown Hair, Brown Eyes" now would it?
 
Sirkickyass said:
Do you believe he has allegiences to any country that are remotely comparable to his allegiance to the United States? Do you believe there is any remotely credible evidence that is the case?

Of course there is a fair to good chance that this was written after a bender. If so, please disregard.
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First and foremost, I fully support all drunken ramblings on jazzfanz. Second, I cannot tell what you are trying to say. It looks like you're backing off your moonbat theory and mixing that discussion with Obama's eligibility. Two separate issues.
 
franklin said:
First and foremost, I fully support all drunken ramblings on jazzfanz. Second, I cannot tell what you are trying to say. It looks like you're backing off your moonbat theory and mixing that discussion with Obama's eligibility. Two separate issues.
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Moonbat, Frankie? You're not a Michelle Malkin fan are you?
 
Gameface said:
Well a form of ID that only said "Male" would not identify me as reliably as one that said "Male/Caucasian, Brown Hair, Brown Eyes" now would it?
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However, I don't think that the question is whether the birth certificate that has been produced fails to specifically identify Obama, so that's moot on this topic.
 
Marcus said:
Hawaii's senator is throwing his hat into the ring.

https://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=291041
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I think we all know better and this dolt is just reading polls that say 45% of Republicans think Obama is not an American Citizen; but I think he could also use a lesson in Conspiracy Theories 101.

These things don't just go away by addressing them or providing more documentation. All it does is create some sort of mutated theory; which we've already seen on this very topic.

I voted for Obama and while, for the most part, he's been a disappointment; I will say he's handled this issue perfectly except maybe for the fact that he hasn't explicitly told the birthers to go **** themselves yet.
 
candrew said:
...I voted for Obama and while, for the most part, he's been a disappointment; I will say he's handled this issue perfectly except maybe for the fact that he hasn't explicitly told the birthers to go **** themselves yet.
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lord only knows what sort of mutant that might produce...


personally I wish the birthers would just get back in their swift boat and take a ride out to sea...
 
Serious question, aren't you folks at all worried about the radical right giving birth to an isolationist, anti-immigrant, Presidential candidate who can score a ton of votes by declaring himself/herself "different than all the other DC fossils?" A person that will "stand up to foreign powers who want to take our hard earned money." A person that will bring spending "under control." Someone who isn't black, doesn't hangout with evil pastors and terrorists, and won't "bow" to any foreign leaders? Someone who will start drilling in the gulf and Alaska so we won't have to be ransomed by "terrorists in the middle east?" They'll talk about school vouchers, privatizing ss, DADT, flat taxes, and unions.

Someone like... I dunno... Like a Chris Christie? Someone who says "all the right things" to play on today's emotions and fears?

While the current big name repub Presidential candidates are jokes, Palin, Romney, Huckabee, etc. I'm not so sure that due to Obama's "compromises" instead of sticking to his guns, won't cost him in 2012. A Tea Bagger type, who plays on American Exceptionalism easily could step in and score huge points....

Thoughts?
 
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moevillini said:
personally I wish the birthers would just get back in their swift boat and take a ride out to sea...
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He got elected a couple of times by getting the sealed divorce records of his opponents opened. This is just karma.
 
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