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Is the world overpopulated?

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This is an interesting article. We will reach a predicted population of 8 billion this November from 5.5 billion in 1994.

 
"Estimates vary, but we're expected to reach "peak human" around 2070 or 2080, at which point there will be between 9.4 billion and 10.4 billion people on the planet. It may be a slow process – if we reach 10.4 billion, the UN expects the population to remain at this level for two decades – but eventually after this the population is projected to decline."

I liked that part of the article if that's really the peak.

Musk thinks there's a population collapse and I don't think he's far off if you look at it in a long term perspective.

I have nothing to back this up but I feel the educated people are having less and less kids while the uneducated have many. You could swap out educated with career driven too.
 
This is an interesting article. We will reach a predicted population of 8 billion this November from 5.5 billion in 1994.
that depends on the lifestyles we are willing to accommodate and how well we share resources. We produce enough food now to feed well over 10 billion, but a lot goes to farm animals or is wasted.
 
No, not even close.

There's a resource allocation and greed problem.
LOL. Mao killed ~50 million. Stalin killed ~20 million. It seems that socialists do indeed have the answer when it comes to making populations smaller. We do not have either a greed, resource allocation, or over population problem.
 
LOL. Mao killed ~50 million. Stalin killed ~20 million. It seems that socialists do indeed have the answer when it comes to making populations smaller. We do not have either a greed, resource allocation, or over population problem.
Lmao
 
From a resource perspective the world could feed a whole bunch more people. About a third of the food produced in the world goes to waste. If you just captured that you would be able to feed the 900 million hungry people in the world plus an extra 3billion people. Advances in science will continue to make it possible to feed more and more people in a sustainable way.

From a my comfort level perspective, I've been to Walmart lately and can tell you there is definitely an overpopulation problem.
 
Is the world overpopulated? No.
Is Utah overpopulated? Yes.

We already are running out of water, cannot see the mountains for half the year due to air pollution, and rarely are the canyons not parking lots. Ever try to go anywhere north/south in between American Fork and Bountiful between 3:00-7:00? I-15 is a freaking nightmare. Should we talk about the toxic bomb we’re sitting on with the GSL trying up and exposing a toxic lake bed?

I remember a few years back sitting in during a Saratoga Springs meeting. Their city planner was bragging about a new marina the city had built on Utah Lake… at that same time, the lake had been closed due to a deadly algae bloom. What good does it serve to build marinas on a lake that’s toxic to humans for most of the summer?

And with Utah’s population set to double in the next 50 or so years? Yikes. So I know someone is coming out ahead with all of this development and growth. Not sure it’s your avg Joe though. Personally, I really miss the Utah of the mid 90s when there were spaces in between the cities, the GSL actually existed so we still got lake effect snow, and the canyons were just usable.
 
From a resource perspective the world could feed a whole bunch more people. About a third of the food produced in the world goes to waste. If you just captured that you would be able to feed the 900 million hungry people in the world plus an extra 3billion people. Advances in science will continue to make it possible to feed more and more people in a sustainable way.

From a my comfort level perspective, I've been to Walmart lately and can tell you there is definitely an overpopulation problem.
Also think if we had better mass long-distance transportation (trains) we would have less city overcrowding.
 
Thank you for clarifying that your are comfortable with the millions of starving people. It's good for you to show your humanitarian side.


As a percentage, there are fewer people starving now, living in poverty now, than ever in human history and the curve is continuing in the direction of global prosperity thanks to the global adoption of capitalism in the late 20th century. No other system is better at resource allocation or production, including food production, than capitalism. Those wishing for the return of 1930's socialist ideals rightfully have about as much credibility as flat-Earthers.

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LOL. Sorry but the 1930's aren't coming back. Socialsim and trains cannot compete against capitalism and internet connectivity.
Can't we have capitalism and effective public transport, or is there no way for a single guy to get insanely wealthy that way? That is usually the measuring stick for these kinds of things, can a politician syphon tons of money off of the project or can a single guy increase his wealth exponentially on the project. If not, it ain't gonna happen. No socialism for you!! We can't use anything that helps people if someone can't get rich from it!! "Socialist" trains that are better for the environment and help reduce traffic congestion and save people money getting to and from work?! "Socialist" medicine that allows someone to get needed medical care without threat of bankruptcy, unless they are rich of course?! The very idea! **** that noise!
 
Can't we have capitalism and effective public transport, or is there no way for a single guy to get insanely wealthy that way? That is usually the measuring stick for these kinds of things, can a politician syphon tons of money off of the project or can a single guy increase his wealth exponentially on the project. If not, it ain't gonna happen. No socialism for you!! We can't use anything that helps people if someone can't get rich from it!! "Socialist" trains that are better for the environment and help reduce traffic congestion and save people money getting to and from work?! "Socialist" medicine that allows someone to get needed medical care without threat of bankruptcy, unless they are rich of course?! The very idea! **** that noise!
If we could have a European like rail system in America right now, I'd sell my car today. Seriously.

And from what I gather, Europe's rail system sucks compared to the newer ones in Asia.

I thought the UK's tube/bus system was amazing. If I knew I could get from SLC to Los Angeles in 6-8 hrs in a comfortable and affordable train, there would be no need for me to have a car. Even locally, I'm finding myself use Trax/Frontrunner. And those suck compared to what they have in Europe and Asia.
 
It is called Uber and Southwest, and it is far superior to socialist trains. You can even include the battery-powered scooters you can rent with your phone in that category.
Far superior? Did you say that with a straight face? LOL

Of course you find it superior because it proves my point. Someone can get rich off those "services" charging exorbitant fees, and they don't provide a public service. Who could possibly afford $20 each way to Uber to work and back every day? But hey, it gets people around and someone got rich, right? That is all that matters in the grand scheme of things. And it put a lot more cars on the road that might not otherwise be there, so that helps the environment somehow, right? And somehow Southwest gets people to work? um, ok. I really think you must be a troll.
 
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