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Goodluckchuck

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With the trades of Rudy and possibly Mitchell, are we as fans going to have to do this every 5 years where players we draft will leave for bigger markets? If so I’m done. This league won’t last. Might as well have only big market teams in the league. Is this the future for Jazz fans like us?
 
Yes. We had the two best players we’ve had since the statues under contract for three more years and the window was definitely closed, so we’ll parlay it into draft picks over multiple years and we’ll definitely, maybe, possibly land as much talent and that talent will maybe, kinda, probably all be timed right for the next 2-3 year window.
 
The league will last just fine. Small markets will always struggle. I don't think Rudy wanted to leave. The right situation for both sides surfaced.
 
It's not a new thing, it's been happening for a long time...Hayward left 5 years ago, and Deron Williams was traded 11 years ago because he was going to leave as well. Now we're trading Donovan because he doesn't want to be here and will leave as soon as his contract is up. Rudy is the exception because he actually wanted to play his whole career here.
 
Rudy would have played his entire career here. Mitchell might have played here longer had we had more success in the playoffs.
 
With the trades of Rudy and possibly Mitchell, are we as fans going to have to do this every 5 years where players we draft will leave for bigger markets? If so I’m done. This league won’t last. Might as well have only big market teams in the league. Is this the future for Jazz fans like us?
Until we find the winning combination. Spurs and 90’s jazz are good example of this.
 
Playoff failures leading to Rudy's name mentioned in trade rumors and a team gives us an exceptional offer. This didnt just come from nothing.
 
Fan/Media culture has led to ranggggz culture which means players have to win rings or they get clowned for the rest of their life. And now that we have social media, that means you are getting clowned 24/7 until the day you die.

If you want to promote a culture where players stay then you have to praise regular season success more.

Don't the Jazz have the best record over the last 5 years? If that was praised and respected then you might have a situation where Donovan is more likely to stay.

Also Donovan needs a bigger market to achieve individual marketability. He's got a good personality to be marketed, but he isn't a big personality that is going to demand attention in the ways Anthony Edwards and Ja Morant do (absolute insanity Donovan has a shoe deal over those two but that is the importance of timing/luck in life).
 
With the trades of Rudy and possibly Mitchell, are we as fans going to have to do this every 5 years where players we draft will leave for bigger markets? If so I’m done. This league won’t last. Might as well have only big market teams in the league. Is this the future for Jazz fans like us?
What we did is a reflection of the Danny Ainge philosophy. While it is not uncommon, it is definitely a big change from every former owner/GM regime in Utah Jazz history. Bring back the Millers. Donny was going to leave but we could have used a Donny trade to build around Rudy.
 
Don't put the Jazz in the same category as a core that won 5 rings. Dear Lord.
You mean a team that kept its stars for basically their entire careers and core for basically ever, made two finals appearances those jazz were cream of the crop for years, just couldn’t solve the Jordan problem which no one could. Also didn’t compare the two other than to point out both teams as small markets kept their stars
 
With the trades of Rudy and possibly Mitchell, are we as fans going to have to do this every 5 years where players we draft will leave for bigger markets? If so I’m done. This league won’t last. Might as well have only big market teams in the league. Is this the future for Jazz fans like us?
Only chance is to move the team from Utah. Nobody wants to play here. Stockton and Malone don’t grow on trees
 
Rudy would have played his entire career here. Mitchell might have played here longer had we had more success in the playoffs.
This. In lots of ways we ****ed this all up when we brought in Conley instead of looking to plug the oh so obvious holes in our lineup. Somehow we hoped a shorter and even less talented guard along-side Mitchell would make up for the fact that we desperately needed a long athletic 3&D wing, or at the very least some size and defensive ability to run with Mitchell at the guard spot. That was the death-knell for this group. DL screwed us once more in his "emeritus" retirement. **** him so hard.
 
Fan/Media culture has led to ranggggz culture which means players have to win rings or they get clowned for the rest of their life. And now that we have social media, that means you are getting clowned 24/7 until the day you die.

If you want to promote a culture where players stay then you have to praise regular season success more.

Don't the Jazz have the best record over the last 5 years? If that was praised and respected then you might have a situation where Donovan is more likely to stay.

Also Donovan needs a bigger market to achieve individual marketability. He's got a good personality to be marketed, but he isn't a big personality that is going to demand attention in the ways Anthony Edwards and Ja Morant do (absolute insanity Donovan has a shoe deal over those two but that is the importance of timing/luck in life).
Rings have always been what mattered. Why did Malone go to LA? And speaking of Malone, since Duncan won a ring so early in his career, there was talk way back in his 2nd and 3rd season that he, and not Malone, was the greatest PF of all time, and it was largely because Duncan had won a ring and Malone never did, despite the fact that Malone was objectively the best PF by any other measure than rings, in the history of the NBA. But rings are what defines the professional player, and they always have. How it Barkley viewed? Same as Malone and Stockton. They always have "...who never won a ring" appended to the end of any praise for them. If Stockton and Malone had won even a single ring, the history books would firmly have Stockton on top of the greatest PGs of all time list and Malone cemented as the best PF of all time. But since they didn't they are usually listed somewhere in the top 5, Stockton at times even outside of the top 5 PGs, and mostly because there are 5 other PGs who won rings. This isn't new. What is new is the bald-face blatant chase of the ring by jumping around and forming super-teams with this express purpose. Yes great teams have always been able to get great players together to win, but before the travesty of "the decision" it was less player-driven and more just market-driven. But we have entered an age where players dictate where they want to go and teams oblige so they don't lose out on value. If everyone knows Mitchell wants to go to New York, like if he made that public, then any trade partner other than NY will low-ball because they know it is only a rental and that eventually he is going no matter what. That is what is damaging the league as a whole.

However I must say it has been wholly satisfying to see the "super-teams" getting put down by organically-grown teams in recent years. Giannis and the Bucks and to a lesser extent (since they added a finals MVP) Toronto, as well as even Golden State all fly in the face of artificially built super-teams. But this trend is not going anywhere. I would not be surprised to see this become a part of the CBA and literally lay out that players can pick and choose their destinations after their rookie contract, and it won't be long before some teams are clamoring to allow rookies to choose who drafts them, even if by simply refusing to play for anyone else. This has kind of happened before, although not in any meaningful way. But that kind of thing would be the end of it all, realistically. Then teams like the Jazz would become simply farm teams for the big coastal franchises, which we really are dangerously close to now.
 
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