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https://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/israel-iran-nuclear-idINL6E8JA7GR20120810

Read the 12th paragraph where it talks about the affect they want it to have on the election.

I have an idea, how about you stay the hell out of the American Election. Asshats. I probably won't vote for President Obama but outside people getting involved pisses me off.

Now I am not gullible. I know it happens all the time from everywhere but to see it put out there like that annoys me.

Edit: Yes, I know there is a typo in the title. **** happens...
 
Stoked said:
I have an idea, how about you stay the hell out of the American Election. Asshats. I probably won't vote for President Obama but outside people getting involved pisses me off.
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God forbid American politicians got involved in other countries' elections.
 
"We don't swim in your toilet, please don't pee in our pool"

Only, we do swim in their toilet.
 
JimLes said:
God forbid American politicians got involved in other countries' elections.
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It should clearly work both ways. So nice try.

Also I believe there is a difference between being involved and trying to throw an election. Yes America does it as well but they are not any more "right" than Israel or any other country doing it.
 
Stoked said:
It should clearly work both ways. So nice try.

Also I believe there is a difference between being involved and trying to throw an election. Yes America does it as well but they are not any more "right" than Israel or any other country doing it.
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Except that the identity of Israel's president has a lot less bearing on lives of Americans than the identity of America's president potentially has on the lives of Israelis.

See 2000 election. Turned out that some hanging chads in Florida were the difference between Iraqis country being attacked and not attacked. Also turned out that the lives of average Americans are no different whether Iraq's president is Saddam or Talabani.
 
JimLes said:
Except that the identity of Israel's president has a lot less bearing on lives of Americans than the identity of America's president potentially has on the lives of Israelis.

See 2000 election. Turned out that some hanging chads in Florida were the difference between Iraqis country being attacked and not attacked. Also turned out that the lives of average Americans are no different whether Iraq's president is Saddam or Talabani.
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Not if it creates a war between Israel and Iran. That could lead to all sorts of trouble for American lives.
 
I'm really starting to hate how much Zionist control is integrated into our government. It was understandable to a certain degree but they constantly want us to do things for them because we are "allies".
 
utahjazz107 said:
I'm really starting to hate how much Zionist control is integrated into our government. It was understandable to a certain degree but they constantly want us to do things for them because we are "allies".
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Sometimes the role of an ally is to slap them upside the back of the head and say "What the hell are you thinking you dumbass". Just like a friend would.
 
utahjazz107 said:
I'm really starting to hate how much Zionist control is integrated into our government. It was understandable to a certain degree but they constantly want us to do things for them because we are "allies".
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Zionist control of our government has always been unacceptable.
There's a reason our founders said what they said about these groups.
It's the same reason Abraham Lincoln, JFK, RFK, MLK, Marilyn Monroe, John Lennon, and Michael Jackson were taken out.

They all knew about the massive world government scheme, and they were all more powerful with the public at large then any of their people were.

That's why it was ended in the 70's, never to return again.
 
JimLes said:
Except that the identity of Israel's president has a lot less bearing on lives of Americans than the identity of America's president potentially has on the lives of Israelis.

See 2000 election. Turned out that some hanging chads in Florida were the difference between Iraqis country being attacked and not attacked. Also turned out that the lives of average Americans are no different whether Iraq's president is Saddam or Talabani.
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You don't know that. Not by a long shot.
 
JimLes said:
I highly doubt that Al Gore and his cabinet would've fabricated evidence of WMDs in the same manner Dubya and his cronies had.
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You say that but all presidents seem to take similar approaches to foreign policy once they get the "security briefing." I call it the big boy talk, the one where the newly elected president discovers just how little power they really have.
 
Gameface said:
You say that but all presidents seem to take similar approaches to foreign policy once they get the "security briefing." I call it the big boy talk, the one where the newly elected president discovers just how little power they really have.
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Kind of like how Obama was going to leave Iraq and Afghanistan that same year...

It is easy to talk like that but once you are privy to all the info things seem to change...
 
Stoked said:
Kind of like how Obama was going to leave Iraq and Afghanistan that same year...

It is easy to talk like that but once you are privy to all the info things seem to change...
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Not quite sure what you're referring to here - Obama never promised to end the war in Afganistan when he was running for President.
 
candrew said:
Not quite sure what you're referring to here - Obama never promised to end the war in Afganistan when he was running for President.
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Unforced error on my part. He actually vowed the opposite. Iraq is what I was thinking and that ended up including Afghanistan for some unknown reason.
 
Stoked said:
Unforced error on my part. He actually vowed the opposite. Iraq is what I was thinking and that ended up including Afghanistan for some unknown reason.
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In all fairness, when Obama promised to re-assess the situation in Afganistan during his first year, some of the peaceniks took it to mean he would pull out the troops. When that didn't happen the far left reacted as if he went back on a promise; which he never made.

I doubt pulling out was ever on the table to begin with.
 
candrew said:
In all fairness, when Obama promised to re-assess the situation in Afganistan during his first year, some of the peaceniks took it to mean he would pull out the troops. When that didn't happen the far left reacted as if he went back on a promise; which he never made.

I doubt pulling out was ever on the table to begin with.
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From what I remember actually he talked about sending more toops to Afghanistan.
 
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