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Jabari Parker...

I agree that this must be buried. I was coming up with how it might could happen, but I know full well that we don't have the minutes to make him and Favors and company happy. We just spent $16+ on Favors because we think he can make it work. Adding Jabari would be a distraction in a very unified locker room.
 
Would jabari be happy with his bench role here? I just don't think so. I'm good with us rolling out with Niang as the final roster guy and moving forward. He is a light's out shooter, can handle, and pass. I think he might be better on D than Jabari too... he's always in the right spot it seems. Watching close in SL he is getting everyone where they need to be and many of the guys are looking at him for direction a lot.

I just think there is so much more value in signing him to a 3 year minimum deal just like Royce. We only have to use him if there are injuries, but i know he will be ready when called on.
I don't think this point gets talked about enough. If you're Jabari, why would you want to play here, besides it being a good franchise and the LDS thing? Favors, Crowder, probably a couple others would take up a bench of time. He'd come off the bunch, probably wouldn't have too many plays run specifically for him, and it's a small market. If I'm him, I go to Atlanta and get as much PT as possible.
 
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I don't think this point gets talked about enough. If you're Jabari, why would you want to play here, besides it being a good franchise and the LDS thing? Favors, Crowder, probably a couple others would take up a bunch of time. He'd come off the bunch, probably wouldn't have too many plays run specifically for him, and it's a small market. If I'm him, I go to Atlanta and get as much PT as possible.

I agree with this. Jabari would be interesting on the Jazz, but I don't see him coming here.
 
I don't think this point gets talked about enough. If you're Jabari, why would you want to play here, besides it being a good franchise and the LDS thing? Favors, Crowder, probably a couple others would take up a bench of time. He'd come off the bunch, probably wouldn't have too many plays run specifically for him, and it's a small market. If I'm him, I go to Atlanta and get as much PT as possible.

I agree but I also think the Jazz would be crazy to not go after him if he would come for MLE money. One of the things this team needs is scoring from the 2nd unit and JP can do that (and he is a come of the bench guy in most of the places he would go). I don't see it working out for the Jazz but that is more on Jabari's end than on our end.
 
Jabari is the next jimmer.
He really is the next Jimmer. The big difference is he will have a place in the league and not in China, but in the eyes of love-sick Jazz Fanz he is the wet dream that Jimmer was so many long years ago, and so highly over-rated it is bordering on silly.




Just say NO to Jabari.
 
I think that the Jazz are comfortable with their current PF rotation of Favors/Crowder/Thabo/possibly Niang. I doubt that they have much interest in Jabari atm.
 
The reason for Jabari to come here is to rescue his career. He and his agent may sense his career path taking on aspects not only of Jimmer, but also of Nerlens Noel, Michael Beasley, Andrew Wiggins, Marshon Brooks, or even Carmelo (Carmelo can still score plenty well, but no winning team should want to have to rely on him.)

To stave off this sort of path in today's NBA where ppg isn't the name of the game anymore, it would really help Jabari to go to a team that teaches him a style of play that leads to winning while he's still young enough. The Jazz (or several other good teams) could save his career in the long run.

Of course that depends on him recognizing that he's on a bad path (and not just the sentiment that the Bucks haven't been good to him). I doubt he's there yet. Although I'm tempted to think the Jazz could help him now to set his career on a better path, I'm not sure that he's at a point where he'd be receptive.
 
Jabari needs to sign a 1+1 with the second year being a player option.

I don't think that RFAs are eligible for such deals (perhaps with MIL, but not with any other team certainly). It's either the qualifying offer or at least a 3-year deal (perhaps 2+1).
 
The reason for Jabari to come here is to rescue his career. He and his agent may sense his career path taking on aspects not only of Jimmer, but also of Nerlens Noel, Michael Beasley, Andrew Wiggins, Marshon Brooks, or even Carmelo (Carmelo can still score plenty well, but no winning team should want to have to rely on him.)

To stave off this sort of path in today's NBA where ppg isn't the name of the game anymore, it would really help Jabari to go to a team that teaches him a style of play that leads to winning while he's still young enough. The Jazz (or several other good teams) could save his career in the long run.

Of course that depends on him recognizing that he's on a bad path (and not just the sentiment that the Bucks haven't been good to him). I doubt he's there yet. Although I'm tempted to think the Jazz could help him now to set his career on a better path, I'm not sure that he's at a point where he'd be receptive.

He'd have to sublimate his ego to help the team. The Jazz thrived last year as a team and as friends. No one was looking to get their own, but let the game come to them and do little things. But it's make players like Rubio, Ingles, and Royce all good players and, in the case of the Ricky and Joe, rehab their careers to the point of DAYUM! That's my only real caveat with an MLE type of deal for him.
 
Jabari signs the qualifying offer. Gambles on himself. Becomes a free agent next season. No team (including Jazz) want to risk a big money offer on a player with too many injury issues. If Jabari can prove he can play 65+ games next season, he will Get a big multi year deal next summer
 
This is how I would approach it for Jabari.

If he thinks he can stay healthy then I sign the qualifying offer and bank on a healthy year and a lot of money flowing next summer and get a much better contract.

If he is worried about injuries or staying healthy then he will want to sign a multi year deal for what ever he can get.
 
He really is the next Jimmer. The big difference is he will have a place in the league and not in China, but in the eyes of love-sick Jazz Fanz he is the wet dream that Jimmer was so many long years ago, and so highly over-rated it is bordering on silly.




Just say NO to Jabari.

Making a lot of broad assumptions LG. I never have been and never will be a Jimmer fan. Those who are really narrow minded must be making up some kind of LDS connection which for me is absurd and has nothing to do with it. I don't think that viewing him as a potential 2nd unit guy who could be a scoring threat is overrating him. However, if his knees are shot than you are correct. If not, it would be very easy for the Jazz to surround him with solid defenders and he could be more of a scoring threat off the bench than most of our other back ups.
 
Jabari >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fred ette...

Jimmer scored 24 points ONCE in a single game playing for the Kings. He had a couple of games over 14 points. Fredette is a BYU homer's dream, a midget in the league, and a ninny sap.

Jabari AVERAGED 20 points per game and he did so AFTER he injured his ACL the first time. He was the 2nd overall drafted because of his build and capability but was injured. He has sat out almost the same amount of games than Dante Exum has sat over his career due to injuries but he has a lot better stats over the same time period. Jabari fits a need and has more potential to be an All Star than any other free agent and his value is way down because of attitude apparently. We have enough character guys to help him blend in and I don't see it as a problem. If MLE is the only way to get there then the alternative is probably to cut Alec Burks and use the cap difference + the MLE to sign him. Not sure if that can be done.
 
Making a lot of broad assumptions LG. I never have been and never will be a Jimmer fan. Those who are really narrow minded must be making up some kind of LDS connection which for me is absurd and has nothing to do with it. I don't think that viewing him as a potential 2nd unit guy who could be a scoring threat is overrating him. However, if his knees are shot than you are correct. If not, it would be very easy for the Jazz to surround him with solid defenders and he could be more of a scoring threat off the bench than most of our other back ups.
You seem to be assuming I was talking about you directly. If you don't feel that way, that's fine. But to read a lot of these posts is seems many do feel that way about him, hyperbole aside. He might be ok, he might not.

I for one do not feel his defense, consistency, nor health warrant throwing a sizable chunk of our cap at the guy. If we could get him on a low-dollar plan then maybe, but why not spend that money on more known quantities instead of a project that has maybe a 50-50 shot of panning out the way we would need him to in order to make a true leap? We did great last year post-break, and it is highly doubtful that Parker is The Answer to get us out of the 2nd round. We are far better off banking that money, making some real noise this next year, and then working that to hopefully attract a 3rd tier player or two, or maybe even a 2nd or 1st tier player, rather than a guy that might be a 3rd tier player if the stars align just so.

It is the unrealistic expectations that make Parker the next Jimmer. The Utah connection seems to engorge the whole thing for a lot of people. I do not know where you get the mormon connection from, but ok whatever I guess.

If we are going after players with Utah connections I would much rather try to get Kuz than Parker.
 
He really is the next Jimmer. The big difference is he will have a place in the league and not in China, but in the eyes of love-sick Jazz Fanz he is the wet dream that Jimmer was so many long years ago, and so highly over-rated it is bordering on silly.




Just say NO to Jabari.

I feel like he's more of an OJ Mayo. All hype, no substance.
 
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