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Jake Heaps needs someone to help pack his bags...

Like I've said before, I would gladly welcome him into the fold at SC just because I do think he has ability, but I don't care that he won't be at BYU. When somebody has been mediocre, and you get a chance to get out of that scholarship commitment and hopefully go out and bring another QB in to get a look, I don't see why that has to be "spin". Now, to say their could potentially be a bad situation at QB if Riley Nelson were to get injured again next year, is certainly accurate.

Nelson has been terrific though. I'm excited to see what he can do as the #1 guy for a whole season, with nobody rubbing up next to him on the #2 spot.
 
Like I've said before, I would gladly welcome him into the fold at SC just because I do think he has ability, but I don't care that he won't be at BYU. When somebody has been mediocre, and you get a chance to get out of that scholarship commitment and hopefully go out and bring another QB in to get a look, I don't see why that has to be "spin". Now, to say their could potentially be a bad situation at QB if Riley Nelson were to get injured again next year, is certainly accurate.

Nelson has been terrific though. I'm excited to see what he can do as the #1 guy for a whole season, with nobody rubbing up next to him on the #2 spot.

I think Lark and/or Munns will be fine in the backup role next year if Riley gets hurt. Probably Lark, but I don't have a problem with Munns either even if neither really has had any playing time.

Lark has been relaying the plays from the sideline, so I'm sure he knows them.
 
Yeah, they do have bodies there with potential that's for sure. I just haven't seen much of either, they even lack youtube high school clips so I can't say I'm too confident if they had to step in. Now , that Taysom Hill kid that transferred from Stanford looks legit in his youtube clips. He might be the combo Heaps/Nelson that everybody dreams about.
 
This is going to sound strange because I'm sorta sticking up for Heaps, but doesn't anybody else find it interesting that all of the rumored schools who have interest in him are big time programs? USC, CAL, Washington, etc? These schools have over a season's worth of film of Heaps starting at the D1 level. Perhaps the kid has some growing up to do, but if he was as big of a puss/douchebag/cancer, or as overrated as some try to make it sound, this kid's options would probably be a couple of Big Sky schools.

Face it: Bronco mismanaged Heaps from the beginning. Badly. Is some of this on Heaps? Certainly, but he wasn't exactly thrown into an enviornment that was going to foster his development. Jeff Tedford is probably licking his chops. Sounds like there's at least a little bit of rumor out there that Apo may be leaving with him. If that ends up being the case, this is bad for BYU.

It's obvious that some of you need to know a few details about Heapsgate that might change your opinion.

But first, lets ask a few questions.

#1 Why did so many players say after the Utah St. game that they "blocked harder, ran faster, and played harder" with Riley playing QB?

#2 Why was Riley throwing passes with the receivers in the spring/summer workouts while Heaps was off doing.... Playstation? Ncmo? Jackpotting with CJ Miles and AK?

#3 What effect was Heaps doing more interviews than workouts with lame media members like Dick Harmon have on his fall play? Yes, he could talk and do interviews, but could he run an offense? Get a damn first down for hells sakes?

#4 Why would Bronco do something that would tick off media members, create an ugly situation with a highly hyped recruit, and put his new offensive coordinator into such a difficult situation? Seriously folks, do you people really think that Bronco WANTED this to happen? How retarded would Bronco have to be, to purposely "hate" a more talented QB, play a lesser one, go against what all the boosters, fans, and media members wanted, and risk losing a lot of respect and support, just to satisfy some kind of vendetta with Heaps?


For those who aren't still in college/don't have connections to teammates on BYU, there's a lot that has gone on that hasn't been reported.... Maybe we'll find out later? Maybe never!

But the facts are out there, if you want to know them...

Heaps was highly touted... He came to BYU acting as if he were Lebron on "The Decision."

They didn't want Riley to play, they wanted to give Heaps a shot... As soon as Riley broke, they quickly made Heaps the starter. He performed ok... And interestingly enough, Riley "lost" his job due to injury.
Everyone had hoped for improvement from Heaps. Yet, this past offseason instead of working and improving, he became worse and irritated his teammates. The proof? Look at how no one is coming to his defense! Look at how not ONE of his teammates has stepped out and spoken out against his benching/transferring.
Now why is that?

while Heaps CJed, Fessed and AKed around, aka jackpotted... riley worked.

Everyone on that BYU team and coaching staff know that Riley doesn't have near the arm as Heaps. Yet, like Tebow, he's a lot more well liked and respected.

This year, notice, Riley was injured again, yet this time, DID NOT LOSE HIS JOB. Why? Because Heaps had proven himself so inept, so offensive (cocky, acted like he was "The Chosen One", and had become such a distraction, that BYU couldn't play him anymore.

The focus of this team and season is anything BUT the team, it's all about Heaps.

Now, he's transferring. And of course the lame Utah media will give Heaps hugs and kisses and wish him well...

But the truth is, the dude has a strong arm. Good potential.

BUT... He isn't a leader, doesn't have great mobility, doesn't jive well with teammates, doesn't read/study the game, and worse, is a lazy ***.

BYU can and will thrive without Heaps. They've done so for over 30 years. Max Hall and Joe Beck weren't hyped. Yet, they got the job done.

Heaps? Well, I'm not sure if he'll survive without BYU... Depending on where he goes, he might never really see his "dream" come true (whatever that is).

But I know Bronco and the rest of the "insiders" can now breathe a sigh of relief. Finally, the distraction is gone.
 
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Serious question, while everyone seems to want to critique Doman and Bronco for NOT putting Jake in positions to be successful, WHAT has Jake done to put HIMSELF in positions to be successful?

Just look @ Tebow. The Broncos have changed their offense... But that offense still sucks and that team still loses if Tebow doesn't take advantage of the opportunities given to him...

What did Jake ever do to make himself successful? Coaches can only do so much...
 
Thriller, obviously you seem to have some inside info. Just how reliable that info is, only you would know, but here's a timeline that all of us outsiders got to see during Heaps time in Provo:

-Heaps commits to BYU and brings Ross Apo with him. BYU fans rejoice. Most point at this signing as a jumping off point in an effort to return to glory.

-Heaps competes with Nelson in fall camp. Bronco can't decide. The season approaches. Bronco still can't decide. The season starts. Bronco goes with both of them so he doesn't have to decide.

-Nelson gets knocked out for the season in Week 3, thus making the QB decision is for Bronco.

-Heaps starts the final 10 games of his Freshman year and gets progessively better.

-Heaps caps the year with a 4TD performance against UTEP, is bowl MVP, and is the first true freshman QB in BYU history to ever win a bowl game.

-The offseason hits, and despite Heaps progression, Bronco decides to run off Rober Anae, promote Doman to OC and then brings in a brand new WR and RB coaches (all 3 of which were probably a bit underqualified at this point IMO).

-Heaps sophmore season starts. BYU offense struggles to gel on all points. Running game is horrid, O-line plays like hell, WR's look awful, Heaps struggles right along with everybody else, Doman is on the field when he needs to be up in the box. This is also during BYU's toughest stretch on their schedule.

-Heaps struggles against Utah State, Riley comes in and saves the day.

-Riley is named the starter right as the schedule starts to soften. Leads BYU to some wins while playing decently, then gets injured.

-Heaps comes in for the injured Nelson, looks as good as he has all season, keeps the BYU offense going and plays about as good as Nelson was playing against similar competition.

-Nelson comes back for Hawaii game, Heaps is benched, Heaps leaves the school.

Now, maybe Heaps does have some work ethic/attitude problems, etc, but I think alot of this falls on BYU's shoulders and especially Bronco Mendenhall's. I think Bronco was really afraid of losing Doman to another school so he panicked a bit and ran off Anae so he could promote/keep Doman. Then the combo of Bronco and Doman brought in a couple of position coaches who are probably im a bit over their head. Considering the circumstances, it was no suprise that BYU's offense was in shambles early. I think at this point it's honeslty fair to consider whether or not BYU has a QB guru on staff who can take a 5-star blue chipper and foster his develpment.

Obviously Heaps is going to wind up somewhere with a chance to play and if he is that lazy and that much of an attitude problem then it will show itself all over again. However, if a guy like Jeff Tedford gets ahold of him and Heaps starts playing great football, it's going to make BYU look like hell.
 
I agree with jazzman12 if Heaps has success some where else it makes BYU look real bad and hurts recruiting for years. I personally think he will have a lot of success with a program with better talent around him and an o-coordinator who knows what he is doing. Heaps struggled to start this season but every game he had great moments and drives. It was definitely a good decision to bench him during the Utah st game. Although Nelsons heroics in that game are overrated, he is lucky the last touchdown was not a pick. Personally I think he should have been reinserted as starter during the TCU game when Nelson had his 3rd turnover right after BYU returned the punt. If he wins that game he gets his confidence back, he wins out the season and is the hero. That would have put him on track for a great junior year. If he does not win that game oh well they were losing anyways and Nelson was making really dumb decisions and should have been benched. It is sad to lose such a talent even if he did not start next year at all. Besides no way does Nelson go an entire season as a starter and not get injured.
 
Heaps should have waited to announce this, now he has to face a few ackward weeks around campus.

Sums him up pretty much IMO...

Screw Apo and the rest of his buddies.

Screw Bronco.

Screw BYU and its fans.

Screw the bowl game.

Screw this season.

Screw this semester.

It's all about me me me! And I'm transferring! Seeya tools!

Him not waiting until after the bowl game says a lot IMO. Transfer? Sure go ahead. It couldn't wait a few more weeks? The lack of concern for your TEAM before the season is even over says a lot.

This is similar to Boozer's "Hell yeah! I'm opting out! Gotta get my raise!.... Regardless"

Boozer's mind obviously wasn't with his team, but with his paycheck. It wasn't on the season, but on the offseason.

Heaps's mind obviously isn't with his team, but where he will take his "talents" to. Heaps thought BYU would be a minor pitstop on his route to the NFL to destroy Aaron Rogers and Drew Brees. In fact in Heaps's mind, the NFL is only a pit stop on his way to Canton, Ohio...
 
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Obviously Heaps is going to wind up somewhere with a chance to play and if he is that lazy and that much of an attitude problem then it will show itself all over again. However, if a guy like Jeff Tedford gets ahold of him and Heaps starts playing great football, it's going to make BYU look like hell.

Agreed.

But IMO, unless Heaps changes to his attitude and work ethic, while also learning how to lead and read defenses, he'll be Ben Olsen part II.

Heaps has been all talk. Never results.
 
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/700204236/Heaps-Cougars-couldnt-make-it-work.html?pg=3

Weeks before Monday's announcement, Heaps had a third-party examine interest in his talents elsewhere. Taylor Barton, his QB guru since he was 9 years old, had been contacting potential suitors. It was Barton who advised Heaps to go to BYU.

It was Barton who is advising Heaps today and it was Barton who gave Mason Kelly of the Seattle Times the scoop on the Heaps transfer on Monday. Kelly covered Heaps in high school.

It is through Barton that Heaps is now being advised by a group of professionals who have counseled him not to comment — except through a released statement to ESPN — publicly. Advisors told Heaps he should avoid personal interviews with print and radio for at least a week.

That paragraph sums him up pretty well. He should get rid of his "QB guru" because the guy turned him into a machine that has no variations to his throwing styles. Coaching the QB guru out of Heaps is probably going to be the key to any future successes he is able to have.
 
LOL! I half expected Harmon to write how fans dumped beer on Heaps's wife... While Heaps in a press conference today called BYU fans as classless. And that he hated them...
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/700204236/Jake-Heaps-Cougars-couldnt-make-it-work.html

In June 2009, Heaps joined receiver Ross Apo and linebacker Zack Stout at Iggy's in Salt Lake City and announced their commitment to sign with BYU and their desire to win a national championship. It was staged, choreographed and arranged by a private public relations person.

Switch to the night of Sept. 30, 2011, in LaVell Edwards Stadium. Jake's wife Brooke watched her husband get benched as BYU trailed late against Utah State. As his replacement Riley Nelson sparked a Cougar comeback, several rows behind her, members of Nelson's family (not his mom and dad) were observed yelling down at Brooke, "Why aren't you cheering now?"

In tears, Brooke witnessed the victory but never attended another BYU game.

Classless BYU fans...

Edit: Now I'm reading in the comments that Nelson's family was NOT in attendance at this game. So perhaps they were really Utah fans in disguise? Were they the same fans that dumped beer all over Max Hall?
 
Edit: Now I'm reading in the comments that Nelson's family was NOT in attendance at this game. So perhaps they were really Utah fans in disguise? Were they the same fans that dumped beer all over Max Hall?

That would seriously be about the funniest thing that ever happened in the history of ever.
 
LOL! I half expected Harmon to write how fans dumped beer on Heaps's wife... While Heaps in a press conference today called BYU fans as classless. And that he hated them...
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/700204236/Jake-Heaps-Cougars-couldnt-make-it-work.html



Classless BYU fans...

Edit: Now I'm reading in the comments that Nelson's family was NOT in attendance at this game. So perhaps they were really Utah fans in disguise? Were they the same fans that dumped beer all over Max Hall?

I'm sure it's possible that it still could have been a relation somewhere down the heredity line, but the girl needs to get thicker skin regardless. BYU fans are very tame compared to what she is potentially about to get thrust into. And since I don't have the same expectations for Jake that his wife likely does, I'm thinking he should probably ditch any thoughts of SC now. At SC, people are going to want him to be Barkley, Leinhart, Palmer, or Sanchez etc., which is extremely unlikey. Go to WSU or Washington where the QB play hasn't been too great lately and maybe wifey won't get harassment if Heaps sucks. Of course, Washington fans basically shut down his dad's business so I don't get why that would be appealing to him anymore. Cal or WSU makes the most sense.
 
Him not waiting until after the bowl game says a lot IMO. Transfer? Sure go ahead. It couldn't wait a few more weeks? The lack of concern for your TEAM before the season is even over says a lot.

That was one of my first thoughts as well.
 
Like many who comment on the situation, I don't know Jake Heaps, but I have to wonder if he's as thin-skinned and afraid of competition as BYU fans are trying to make it sound now that he is leaving. Maybe, just maybe he was sick of being jerked around by a team and a coach that failed him in regards to building a competent, seasoned, offensive staff. An staff made up of Doman, Cahoon, and Dupaix is pretty green and probably not quite ready for prime time. I think it's no suprise that with so much offensive transition BYU struggled to begin the year. Those early season struggles will now forever be known as what started the wheels in motion for Jake Heaps to leave BYU.

When you have the biggest QB recruit in school history entering his 2nd season, is that the right time to turnover almost the entire offensive staff? Maybe even more importantly, why was there so much offensive turnover after a season that saw your true freshman QB start 10 games, get better as the season went on, and finish the year with an outstanding effort in a bowl win that left BYU fans salivating for what the future held?

Like I said, I don't know Heaps. Maybe he is a spoiled brat who will fail wherever he ends up. But perhaps the opposite of Heaps is true. Maybe he wants to compete so badly that he feels like he needs to find a coaching staff with more accomplished offensive minds in order to put him in the best position to succeed. Since Heaps arrived in Provo, I think Bronco's handling of the QB situation and the offensive hirings and firings have been very perplexing. He and his coaches are not without blame in this.
 
Like many who comment on the situation, I don't know Jake Heaps, but I have to wonder if he's as thin-skinned and afraid of competition as BYU fans are trying to make it sound now that he is leaving. Maybe, just maybe he was sick of being jerked around by a team and a coach that failed him in regards to building a competent, seasoned, offensive staff. An staff made up of Doman, Cahoon, and Dupaix is pretty green and probably not quite ready for prime time. I think it's no suprise that with so much offensive transition BYU struggled to begin the year. Those early season struggles will now forever be known as what started the wheels in motion for Jake Heaps to leave BYU.

When you have the biggest QB recruit in school history entering his 2nd season, is that the right time to turnover almost the entire offensive staff? Maybe even more importantly, why was there so much offensive turnover after a season that saw your true freshman QB start 10 games, get better as the season went on, and finish the year with an outstanding effort in a bowl win that left BYU fans salivating for what the future held?

Like I said, I don't know Heaps. Maybe he is a spoiled brat who will fail wherever he ends up. But perhaps the opposite of Heaps is true. Maybe he wants to compete so badly that he feels like he needs to find a coaching staff with more accomplished offensive minds in order to put him in the best position to succeed. Since Heaps arrived in Provo, I think Bronco's handling of the QB situation and the offensive hirings and firings have been very perplexing. He and his coaches are not without blame in this.

You really want to blame BYU for something, so go ahead and blame them for this. Might as well if it will get you to stop. ( I know it will not)
It was also Sloan's fault AK didn't play as well after his big contract because he didn't handle him right.
It was the NBA coaches faults Adam Morrison did not play well in the NBA because they mishandled him as well.
It was the Saints fault Reggie Bush isn't as good as he was going to be.
It's the Raiders fault Jamarcus Russell isn't awesome.
It's Jordan's fault Kwame Brown was not an all star.

I get it.
Maybe you're right.

...but maybe it's more on the player as to why they did not succeed. Maybe Heaps 5 ypa was a fluke because the rest of the team sucked? Oh wait, Riley Nelson who can't throw a lick averages 9 ypa. Heaps just needs to toughen up and focus on getting better. I hope he does so because this has nothing to do with a lack of physical skill. I like him, but I'm also realistic. Let's quit trying to blame other people for a person's problems. If Heaps was not not given a shot this year I could see blaming coaches, but 252 attempts is not exactly not getting a shot.
 
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