Jazz 2017/18 Playoff Bus! All Aboard!
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I just looked over the schedule the next month. There is a lot of big basketball games that need to be played. It should be a fun month...
What math is that? There's practically no separation between 8 and 6.
fallenchicken
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Yeah. Getting in is the problem. But if we can--we could end up anywhere.
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Alright... tonight we are pulling for the Suns, Magic, and Kings?
If one of those games falls our way it will be a miracle.
If one of those games falls our way it will be a miracle.
Unless the Jazz go on another 11 game winning, its going to take 2 of the teams falling a bit from the rest of the pack for the Jazz to make the playoffs. Chances are it happens with as much as the other teams are playing each other, but I don't think you can expect 4 teams to go under .500 for the remainder of the season. Thats what it will take for Jazz to get a 5-6 seed if they end up with 44-45 wins.
The Jazz just need to win 2 more games than their opponents over the next 22 games. Math says we'll end up somewhere between 3-10. That's all. There is no math that says you can only catch up with one of the five teams with the same record. Given we have the easiest schedule, I would not be surprised if we end up as high as 3. I also don't put it past the team to lay a dump for the rest of the season and finish in 10th.
I'm not using math, I'm using basic logic. I don't think the Jazz go much better than 13-9 or 14-8. I also don't think that most the teams ahead of them go worse than .500. They are going to beat the Bulls, Suns, Mavs, Kings, Magic, Hawks, etc... Then when they play each other, one of the teams will have to win. Go look at every other teams schedule. The are at least 7-8 wins in each of them, then they are bound to win a few more.
Jazz go 17-5, they could end up the 3-4 seed. I just don't see that happening.
Douchebag K
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there is no way in hell we're going to get as high as 3-4 I think we'll do well to get 7 perhaps 6 if all goes really well. If we drop the ball in only a couple of games we could still easily miss
But, but, simple math...
cmw
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Looking at the rest of the schedule, Jazz have 12 games they should be favored and must win. 8 tough games against the top teams that they need to take a few from, and 2 that are toss ups that they need. 16 wins in there gets em to 47 and probably in. Last 2 games are against Portland a golden st. Portland will be fighting for position more than likely, but golden st. May be resting which could make that game winnable. 11 games against tanking teams left. I like the odds
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Oh, it's logic, is it? lmao. I guess that's better than the above "simple math" ********, but not by much.
It is your opinion that the Jazz will do no better than 13-9 or 14-8. It has nothing to do with logic, which just an empty word that people throw to make their opinions sound like they're god's own declarations.
The Jazz could end up winning 20 out of the next 22, and finish in 3rd. They might lose 20, and finish well outside the playoffs. I don't care about where you think the Jazz will end up. I was simply referring to the simple fact that the Jazz could end up as high as 3. It's just a fact.
The reason the other teams have tough schedules is they play each other a lot. One of the teams is bound to win those games. Look at SA for example. They have 8 games against teams in the 4-9 in the West. That is 8 wins for teams ahead of the Jazz that are guaranteed. Unless the teams ahead of the Jazz lose to the crappy teams they play, the Jazz won't pass more than a few of them.
There is also reality. Jazz are not going to win 20 more games. Its possible for the Jazz to drop to 14-15 in the West, but in reality, it's not going to happen.
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It's really quite simple. Look at 3rd place Spurs. They're at 36-25. They have 21 games left. Assuming, for argument's sake, they win at same rate they've been winning (0.59). That's 12-9. So the Jazz would have to win 17 games, finishing 17-5, to end up ahead of the Spurs. This is mathematically possible, do you agree? It applies as well to any team as it does the Spurs, yes? It's also within the realms of possibility as things go. Sometimes teams do win 17 out of 22. I was responding to the post about "simple math". A quick look shows it isn't so. Your "logic" thing is just your projection of where the Jazz will end up. You're, at best, describing an educated guess. Not logic, which cannot be disputed.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Simple math says yes. If the Jazz win 60% of their remaining games I'm nearly certain they will make the playoffs. And with the schedule they have, 60%+ looks very likely.
Dude. It's like I don't exist.
Joe Bagadonuts
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OK, so the logic part is that some of the teams will win by default because they play each other. The rest is just reality. The other teams are not going to lose to the bad teams in the NBA. The only thing closer than the WC race is the race for the worst record. 8 teams are within 2 wins. For the Jazz to win 17 games, they will have to win at least 4 of the following; Houston, @Pacers, @ NO, Boston @SA, @GS, @Minn, GS, @Por. All this while they can't lose any home games or against non playoff teams, this includes Minn, LAC, Det who are all going to be fighting for a playoff spot.
And at the same time you have to hope that none of the other teams like Minn don't do better than 12 wins to finish the season.