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jazz dead last in turnovers per game. we can't take care of the ball.

I would like to second the "Why is burks in the doghouse" also DM45 is over half the reason our 3pt and fg% is so dismal. kid has the green light to shoot... And the stuggle is real.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Last year he was 47% from 10-16" so that little leaning shot is a legit shot for him that he mastered, this year is no fluke. Floaters work better if you have some leaping ability otherwise they're easily blocked, and Rubio has no leaping ability. It's one of the reasons I think his 3 point shot stinks even though he's pretty accurate from 16" in.
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Uhh, no. Floaters require no leaping ability whatsoever. Plenty of players who are master of the floater who barely jump (Tony Parker, Steve Nash, Chris Paul come to mind).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4rCYRd3Jlw

Nothing about these shots takes any kind of high level (or even mild level) leaping ability.

And his jump shot is just a stylistic choice. He can jump higher than an inch off the ground. Plus, you can get arc without a high jump. Most people who jump higher actually shoot flatter becuase they tend to be 2-motion shooters who shoot on the way down. Rubio's flat shot is a result of his 2-motion shot, not how little he jumps.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Last year he was 47% from 10-16" so that little leaning shot is a legit shot for him that he mastered, this year is no fluke. Floaters work better if you have some leaping ability otherwise they're easily blocked, and Rubio has no leaping ability. It's one of the reasons I think his 3 point shot stinks even though he's pretty accurate from 16" in.
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And further, while he shoots very well in that range, very few of those shots come from within the non-restricted paint area, which is the sweet spot of where you want to get the ball to break down a defense.

http://nbasavant.com/player.php?ddlYear=2016&ddlShotMade=&ddlTeamDefense=&player_id=201937

Only 39 shots in the non-restricted paint area all year last year! That has to change as his career advances. That's the spot where you cause the help D to really collapse and get multiple options as a playmaker. Guys like Tony Parker were attempting over 300 shots in this area in their primes. I'm not saying he should be anywhere close to that, but he should be taking at least 100 shots per season from this spot and getting the ball there more.

I see no reason why Rubio can't be good at these shots as he is good at the mid-range runners and the runners from the left.
 
Jazz are shooting 50% at home this season which is 3rd best in the NBA(that would be 2nd best to GS if we had that in all our games). They are shooting 44.2% on the road. That is bottom 10 in the NBA for road shooting. The sample size is too small to draw conclusions from yet but I expect the road numbers to trend up and be closer together. We have had really bad shooting nights the last two games. That wont last, our shooters will get back to norms.

The turnovers have to be fixed though. That should be the main concern. The offense isnt going to be elite but it wont be this abysmal as the last two games. We saw what it could do against OKC. When we get in rhythm that will be more normal for our offense.

I think our home record and games are more indicative of how we will play this season. New teams can struggle on the road but we will figure it out. Our home offensive rating is 105 and home defensive rating is 95 which makes us +10. I think that is what we will be closer to at the end of the season this year.
 
dipship31 said:
Leading the league in TOs per game AND playing at the slowest pace is pathetic.
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1. Lakers leading in TO's
2. Grizzlies are slowest paced team
3. Jazz are 13th in fast-break points per game

So the Jazz are a team that looks to push pace in transition, but when they don't get those looks, they are going through long half-court sets. The high turnovers are ****ty and need to come down, but the style at which the Jazz play is susceptible to them (not pathetic IMO). It's not like they are this safe, slow paced team that are running isolation. You just cherry picked one stat that paints an incomplete picture.

A lot of the slow pace rn is because of guys like Ingles, Johnson, and Hood passing up the 1st open look from 3, which has led to extra TO's and a slower half-court pace.
 
The bottom line is we're dead last in turnovers per possession. We turn it over 19.4% of possessions. Denver is 2nd at 19.0%. Then, New York at 18.0%. And Philly at 17.3%. So we suck.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
1. Lakers leading in TO's
2. Grizzlies are slowest paced team
3. Jazz are 13th in fast-break points per game

So the Jazz are a team that looks to push pace in transition, but when they don't get those looks, they are going through long half-court sets. The high turnovers are ****ty and need to come down, but the style at which the Jazz play is susceptible to them (not pathetic IMO). It's not like they are this safe, slow paced team that are running isolation. You just cherry picked one stat that paints an incomplete picture.

A lot of the slow pace rn is because of guys like Ingles, Johnson, and Hood passing up the 1st open look from 3, which has led to extra TO's and a slower half-court pace.
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Fine we are 29th in turnovers and 29th in pace. I really don't give a **** about pace, but good lord it's bad to give up that many turnovers per game and play at such a slow pace. Yes the Lakers lead the league in turnovers, but they're also averaging 12 more possessions a game than us. We are far and away the most careless team in basketball right now.
 
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