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Jazz Fire Mike Elliot, Experience Worse Case of Injuries

Donovan had already had a lengthy absence... He wasn't going to be 100% until the offseason.

Blaming the current injuries, Bojan's finger, Donovan's concussion, Joe's knee, on the new medical staff is crazy town. Joe wasn't in the best shape of his career... maybe he should have sat out to get right... good luck holding that guy out just because.

It's unfortunate... it sucks... but maybe we could ummmmm... IDK... not blame Donovan for Joe's injury. Maybe we could be just a little better... like 5% better than this. TIA
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Donovan had already had a lengthy absence... He wasn't going to be 100% until the offseason.

Blaming the current injuries, Bojan's finger, Donovan's concussion, Joe's knee, on the new medical staff is crazy town. Joe wasn't in the best shape of his career... maybe he should have sat out to get right... good luck holding that guy out just because.

It's unfortunate... it sucks... but maybe we could ummmmm... IDK... not blame Donovan for Joe's injury. Maybe we could be just a little better... like 5% better than this. TIA
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If you read the thread I clarified the finger/concussion werent things I put on the new(er) staff
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
If you read the thread I clarified the finger/concussion werent things I put on the new(er) staff
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Injuries happen... you can have the best training staff in the world. To assign blame for a catastrophic knee injury and calf strain to the medical team... is some dumb ****. It's clear you'd like to blame Donovan for this.. Maybe just give it a couple days before you decide to troll @LoPo maybe just let it breathe.
 
As far as I understood, Bogey has a jammed finger, which isn't something you hold much control to avoid happening

I also don't know what you could do to avoid Donovan concussion

Mike is playing his best season in terms of avoiding injuries so far, so with him, they problably now what they're doing there

Rudy has a calf injury, but i don't think his minutes been unreasonable. He also may have played less full 4th quarters in the part of the season he played, than on the same of last season. Also one could point that his minutes increase may be linked to the fact that we've been not getting as much blowout wins as last season.

Royce seems to have some problem bugging his heel ? But we're way short on wing defenders, before Ingles injury, it problably would be easy to rest Bogey, in terms of shooting and scoring (dividing Bojan between Donovan once back, Mike, Ingles, Clarkson and Gay), but Royce, it's pretty much House, who's a worse defender and even still on a 10-day contract. And last season we played Clarkson through ankle problems too, so it's not like we've not done something similar before, and at a position we had better depth

Joe Ingles, yeah, I think that there may be a case that he could/should seen more load management. He sure looked gassed, mentally and physically. If we've been in a position to give this rest, that's another question
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
Injuries happen... you can have the best training staff in the world. To assign blame for a catastrophic knee injury and calf strain to the medical team... is some dumb ****. It's clear you'd like to blame Donovan for this.. Maybe just give it a couple days before you decide to troll @LoPo maybe just let it breathe.
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DIdnt blame anyone in this thread. It's not black/white and firing one of the most celebrated strength/conditioning coaches is noteworthy.

If the Jazz fired Quin Snyder and hired Alex Jensen, then the following season the Jazz lost 15 more games, we'd be talking about it. That's basically what the Jazz did on the strength/conditioning side of things.
 
Joe appears to be carrying more weight this year, which I think has affected his entire game and made him more injury prone. Can't blame that on the medical staff.

If anything, outside of concussion, COVID, breaks and now Joe, the team has been healthy, including Conley's hamstrings (Yoga and Mike may be more responsible for that than the medical staff, but who knows...)

It seemed we had a lot more injuries after losing Briggs UNTIL this year. If anything, I'd say the medical/training staff appears to be doing a great job.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
DIdnt blame anyone in this thread. It's not black/white and firing one of the most celebrated strength/conditioning coaches is noteworthy.

If the Jazz fired Quin Snyder and hired Alex Jensen, then the following season the Jazz lost 15 more games, we'd be talking about it. That's basically what the Jazz did on the strength/conditioning side of things.
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Sure.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
Joe appears to be carrying more weight this year, which I think has affected his entire game and made him more injury prone. Can't blame that on the medical staff.

If anything, outside of concussion, COVID, breaks and now Joe, the team has been healthy, including Conley's hamstrings (Yoga and Mike may be more responsible for that than the medical staff, but who knows...)

It seemed we had a lot more injuries after losing Briggs UNTIL this year. If anything, I'd say the medical/training staff appears to be doing a great job.
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I've been saying he's heavier for a while now. It was pretty obvious he was carrying some extra bad weight. He had a play game before last that was a really awkward fall... and he just didn't look like he was moving well. Maybe the trainers should have held him out so he could drop some weight. Good luck selling that to everyone involved.

I'm gonna go ahead and refrain from blaming the new medical staff... I'm not gonna blame the guy who may have been the reason the old medical staff is gone. These things happen... it sucks.
 
I was watching the replay of Joe's injury and it reminds me a lot of the Krysko knee injury when he was shoved by Bill Lambeer many years ago. Jordan McLaughlin was shoving on Joe as he was dribbling and the knee gave out. For player safety the league may want to have refs start calling this type of contact all the time.
 
Donovan's immediate reaction to the injury seemed serious. I'm worried that we're facing another playoffs with a hobbled key player. Has nothing to do with trainers in this case, of course. But I note that Dwight Powell wasn't even called for a foul for dangerously landing in Don's landing space.
 
LifeOnaPlate said:
Donovan's immediate reaction to the injury seemed serious. I'm worried that we're facing another playoffs with a hobbled key player. Has nothing to do with trainers in this case, of course. But I note that Dwight Powell wasn't even called for a foul for dangerously landing in Don's landing space.
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You dont get free landing space when attacking the basket, that's only for jump shots where it's a controlled thing .
 
LifeOnaPlate said:
Donovan's immediate reaction to the injury seemed serious. I'm worried that we're facing another playoffs with a hobbled key player. Has nothing to do with trainers in this case, of course. But I note that Dwight Powell wasn't even called for a foul for dangerously landing in Don's landing space.
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
You dont get free landing space when attacking the basket, that's only for jump shots where it's a controlled thing .
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This.

Also don't forget the NBA implemented random foul calling this year, so it doesn't matter what actually happens on the floor.
 
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