MDAV28
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For the Jazz sake I hope they can lock him in to 4-years, 50ish. Maybe with a player option. For his sake he should definitely take a one-year deal probably. But it'd be tough to turn down $35-$40 million guaranteed
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For the Jazz sake I hope they can lock him in to 4-years, 50ish. Maybe with a player option. For his sake he should definitely take a one-year deal probably. But it'd be tough to turn down $35-$40 million guaranteed
TheStormofWar
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I genuinely doubt the Jazz will do that. Flying out to Atlanta to meet with him directly is actually a sign of respect on the organization's part. No calls, no "we'll see what happens with Player X", etc. Notice we didn't go ape**** and sign anyone yet? Favors IS the first priority for the Jazz. I suspect Utah is going to give him a couple of contract offers around a 4/50 to 55 range and a 1/15, play the "we love you" card because they did work to repair their relationship with him, and let him see what else is out there.
Given how much our roster has hemorrhaged the last 18 months, Utah needs to stop the bleeding if for perception alone. Assuming Utah and Favors move quickly, Utah can then exercise it's MLE on a player that actually helps the roster and will be a bargain. Don't know who, but we'll see.
LoPo
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I would not sign Favors for more than 2 years unless it's for less than $10 per year. Or maybe something that declines like Ingles' deal.
I just dont believe we are winning a title with Favors as our starting PF. And I don't think we can win a title if we are paying Favors $12+ if he is coming off the bench.
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I just dont believe we are winning a title with Favors as our starting PF. And I don't think we can win a title if we are paying Favors $12+ if he is coming off the bench.
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MDAV28
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A long-term deal at around $12 could be a serious asset for a player of Favors caliber.
You forgot grayson Allen
Yep, I did... so it's 2M instead of one of the 840K... so this makes it even less money to give prospective top tier FAs.
RandyForRubio
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GO GET JABARI PARKER
LoPo
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Gobert is a max player. Mitchell will be a max player. Rubio is a $15+ player. O'Neale will get paid eventually. Ingles still makes $11+ the next few years.
We have the money the next two years to survive a bad deal. Starting in 2020, we need to be able to keep the guys who matter. Because, at the end of the day, Favors is not probably starting for us if we become a contender. No other contender is intentionally spending $12+ for a nonstarter who lacks an elite skill. You pay a freak like Iggy. You don't for a solid big, good guy Favors.
We need the money for another major difference maker.
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We have the money the next two years to survive a bad deal. Starting in 2020, we need to be able to keep the guys who matter. Because, at the end of the day, Favors is not probably starting for us if we become a contender. No other contender is intentionally spending $12+ for a nonstarter who lacks an elite skill. You pay a freak like Iggy. You don't for a solid big, good guy Favors.
We need the money for another major difference maker.
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LoPo
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I think this off-season comes down to Derrick Favors or Jabari Parker.
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Ineptimusprime
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Couldn’t we realistically get both of them with the lack of money left on the table around the NBA? I would try to snag Jabari on a short term MLE deal and see if the Bucks match, or some sort of sign and trade involving Burks and picks.
TheStormofWar
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If we swap Favors for Parker, we are making a serious mistake. A very serious mistake. You absolutely don't pay huge cash for a player who is projected to be your starter that can't play a full season. So Favors any day of the week, twice on Sunday, and thrice on major national holidays. It's like with Utah resigning Exum, it's a contract for potential, not performance, which is probably the worst kind if that contract is huge. Parker might be an MLE player on this team, but Utah absolutely cannot afford to lose Favors in that case.
Ineptimusprime
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I think Jabari is gonna end up in Sactown, but if Jazz could get him at the MLE, then great.
LoPo
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We wouldn't pay huge money for Parker.
If we let Thabo go (which we should no doubt do anyway), then agree to sign Exum for let say $7 or $8, we could feasibly offer Parker something in the $12-15 range. If he accepts, we might be deciding between Udoh and Jerekbo.
I wouldn't give Parker more than $15. But, he is a gamble worth taking on a 2+1 deal. If he works, he could be our missing piece. Favors is not our missing piece.
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If we let Thabo go (which we should no doubt do anyway), then agree to sign Exum for let say $7 or $8, we could feasibly offer Parker something in the $12-15 range. If he accepts, we might be deciding between Udoh and Jerekbo.
I wouldn't give Parker more than $15. But, he is a gamble worth taking on a 2+1 deal. If he works, he could be our missing piece. Favors is not our missing piece.
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LoPo
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We have Crowder, Jerekbo, Ingles, O'Neale and maybe even Thabo too who can play PF. We have Udoh and Bradley to backup Gobert.
People got to stop acting like we HAVE to have Favors.
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People got to stop acting like we HAVE to have Favors.
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TheStormofWar
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Neither is Parker if he can't play. Exum's injury history scares me. Parker's is worse by a Utah County mile. I'd rather have both and let the fates decide if we had to. But as of right now, I do Favors without question.
TheStormofWar
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Favors > Udoh AND Bradley right now.
The only one who makes sense as a starting 4 might be Crowder, but only in spot minutes really. He's a natural 3 on the court with capability to do some PF. Royce is the same, but he'll get thugged by larger 4s. I see your point, but losing Favors is a regression for this team unless a reliable answer is set to swap him. Parker is a HUGE gamble and not likely to pay off. I get he's not a starting 4 on a championship team, but you don't cut of a leg because it has cramps.
LoPo
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Of course Favors is better than Bradley and Udoh. But are we really paying him $12 to be an awesome backup C?
Just look at our roster, and we have the following "scorers" - Mitchell and Rubio. Ingles is a solid scorer. Favors, O'Neale, Crowder, Exum, and Gobert arent scorers. We need another scorer.
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Just look at our roster, and we have the following "scorers" - Mitchell and Rubio. Ingles is a solid scorer. Favors, O'Neale, Crowder, Exum, and Gobert arent scorers. We need another scorer.
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TheStormofWar
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Without doubt do we need a another scorer or two. But you can't replace Favors at the 4 unless there is someone better or he demands a stupidly huge contract. Anything else is simply a regression and, frankly, our roster bleeding has to stop at some point.
Ineptimusprime
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From DL’s interview on 1280 this friday, it seemed pretty clear Thabo was in the future plans and is sort of seen as our Trevor Ariza.
http://www.1280thezone.com/dennis-lindsey-jazz-ready-to-pitch-their-story-to-free-agents/
If someone gets cut, sounds like it’ll be Jerebko or Udoh.
With the guys we are rumored to be looking at all being stretchy bigs (Parker, Bjelly, Bertans), I’d guess Jonas may be the odd one out.
http://www.1280thezone.com/dennis-lindsey-jazz-ready-to-pitch-their-story-to-free-agents/
If someone gets cut, sounds like it’ll be Jerebko or Udoh.
With the guys we are rumored to be looking at all being stretchy bigs (Parker, Bjelly, Bertans), I’d guess Jonas may be the odd one out.