Jazz have the best 5 man rotation for +/- in the league?

[Gyp Rosetti]

https://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus.jsp

And four man, three man, and two man?

 

[LunaticWolf]

no

click the see more combinations

 

[footawn]

nice!

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

no

click the see more combinations

Yeah, I saw that. We were around 7th or so on the list. That's why I was confused why we came up as 1st and had a question mark in my subject line. Could it be on a per minute basis?

 

[footawn]

A. Kirilenko
A. Jefferson
D. Williams
C. Miles
P. Millsap

#9 in the league. still not too shabby.

 

[LunaticWolf]

Yeah, I saw that. We were around 7th or so on the list. That's why I was confused why we came up as 1st and had a question mark in my subject line. Could it be on a per minute basis?

I think it only shows lineups that played the night before.

 

[Jeditiger]

Why do so many people put so much stock in +/-? I don't consider it to be all that useful of a "stat". A novelty, a curiosity, sure.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

I think it only shows lineups that played the night before.

Gotcha.

 

[memo is money]

Our starter combinations have such a great +/- rate because our bench production has sucked all year long, and seems like will be borderline inefficient untill we get Memo %100 healthy back.

 

[LunaticWolf]

Our starter combinations have such a great +/- rate because our bench production has sucked all year long, and seems like will be borderline inefficient untill we get Memo %100 healthy back.

Actually, our bench has a better+- than our starters.

 

[Marty McFly]

Our starter combinations have such a great +/- rate because our bench production has sucked all year long, and seems like will be borderline inefficient untill we get Memo %100 healthy back.

What a stupid thing to say.

 

[InGameStrategy]

Why do so many people put so much stock in +/-? I don't consider it to be all that useful of a "stat". A novelty, a curiosity, sure.

Um, because the team with the better +/- (or minute-weighted +/- per player) wins each game.

<< shakes head in pity >>

 

[Jeditiger]

Um, because the team with the better +/- (or minute-weighted +/- per player) wins each game.

On an overall team basis, I can see that. As in "team x is (+/-) team y in rebounds". But on an individual basis, its way too easy to misconstrue and take out of context.

<< shakes head in pity >>

You really enjoy being an arrogant, condescending prick, don't you?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

We were talking about five man rotations which essentially is a team.

 

[Jeditiger]

We were talking about five man rotations which essentially is a team.

Fair enough.

 

[GVC]

On an overall team basis, I can see that. As in "team x is (+/-) team y in rebounds". But on an individual basis, its way too easy to misconstrue and take out of context.



You really enjoy being an arrogant, condescending prick, don't you?

Some people think that sort of behavior hides their ignorance. Unfortunately for IGS, there's literally nothing that could accomplish that.

 

[InGameStrategy]

On an overall team basis, I can see that. As in "team x is (+/-) team y in rebounds". But on an individual basis, its way too easy to misconstrue and take out of context.

Um, there is a correlation between individual +/- and team performance--I take it that you haven't done the analysis--and 5-man rotations are even better than individual +/-. Academic studies have been done on the relative robustness of point differential, which is an aggregation of team +/- combinations. That's why I harp on it.

You really enjoy being an arrogant, condescending prick, don't you?

Only toward people for whom it is appropriate. There is not satisfaction in being a prick toward people who don't deserve it.

Don't deny that your previous posts haven't asked for it.

 

[InGameStrategy]

Some people think that sort of behavior hides their ignorance. Unfortunately for IGS, there's literally nothing that could accomplish that.

Correct, because I put analysis behind my opinions. Wasn't much ignorance to hide in the first place, and thus it's hard to find.

 

[Gameface]

Why do so many people put so much stock in +/-? I don't consider it to be all that useful of a "stat". A novelty, a curiosity, sure.

It's just like the way we sometimes talk about power rankings. They don't mean squat, and if they don't look good for your team you can easily ignore them, but if they suggest that your homerish feelings are valid you'll wave them around in people's faces all day long.

 

[Jeditiger]

Only toward people for whom it is appropriate. There is not satisfaction in being a prick toward people who don't deserve it.

Don't deny that your previous posts haven't asked for it.

Oh, you're not an just arrogant, condescending prick towards me. You're just an arrogant, condescending prick period. I'm sure you're a delight IRL.

I am done responding to your posts and I ask that you refrain from responding to mine going forward. You're not a Jazz fan. Nothing the Jazz has ever done has ever brought you joy here. All you do is harp and criticize and try to seem professorial in the process. You're nothing but an act, and it makes you nothing more than an ***.