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Jazz@hawks, 3.25.12, 4:00 p.m.

I'm guessing Locke will get a bunch of emails and address the tradition of riding the starters through all OTs. I don't recall any NBA game in which there were a lot of subs during OT.

Just a guess, the closers are the closers. It's their responsibility to close the game.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Compelling and rich.
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Your last several posts have brought absolutely nothing to the table.

Anyways to the other guy, Al Jefferson made a few big shots, but his "defense" allowed 9 points for the Hawks in the 2nd OT off the top of my head. Got blown by Teague twice, reached in lazily and fouled him on another, and of course, when he got switched on Joe Johnson with us up 3, he bit on his drive.
 
Jazz4ever said:
He'll never be a hero his time is over. He has 17 games left and will probably be in Europe the rest of his career.
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I dunno man, if CJ pulls 5 points out of his butt to force 5 OT and we end up winning, especially on the road, it would be legendary.
 
just think the personal attacks got out of hand.
i just am really frustrated that the right coach would win us a couple more games.
with timeouts called the right way, situaniol subs. and not being afraid of the players play the players who deserve it eg burks instead of bell.
it really really frustrates me. if hawks was a better team not on a b2b2b i wouldnt complain. if jazz lose to okc on the road i wouldnt complain.
but to leave a easily winnable on the table because of lack of common sense really frustrates me.
no need to attack my bad english, no need to call me self proclaimed tough guy. it easier to put me on ignore.

sigh game left on the table
 
Brown Notes said:
I'm guessing Locke will get a bunch of emails and address the tradition of riding the starters through all OTs. I don't recall any NBA game in which there were a lot of subs during OT.

Just a guess, the closers are the closers. It's their responsibility to close the game.
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I think the Jazz would've been fine doing that had Ty not exhausted them in regulation. Remember when I said he left the starters in too long? They were gassed at the end of the 3rd quarter.
 
LifeOnaPlate said:
So Harris and Hayward shot a combined 8/33. That's a nice line.
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Yeah but the loss is all CJ's and AL's fault.

You should just highlight Harris's night though. It was awful. He was missing shots he has been making the past 2 months. Wide open 3 after wide open 3 clanked.
 
The Norm said:
I think the Jazz would've been fine doing that had Ty not exhausted them in regulation. Remember when I said he left the starters in too long? They were gassed at the end of the 3rd quarter.
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I'm not buying that NBA players in the middle of March are severely affected by 1 or 2 more minutes in a game. Anyways that post was strictly about the non-subbing in OT. I could be wrong but I think it's a league wide practice. The closers stay in until the game is won, they foul out or are hurt.
 
Brown Notes said:
I'm not buying that NBA players in the middle of March are severely affected by 1 or 2 more minutes in a game. Anyways that post was strictly about the non-subbing in OT. I could be wrong but I think it's a league wide practice. The closers stay in until the game is won, they foul out or are hurt.
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Like I said, that's exactly what the Hawks coach did. That is what most coaches do from all the OT games I have seen. It may not be the right move, but it's the move I always see NBA coaches do.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Like I said, that's exactly what the Hawks coach did. That is what most coaches do from all the OT games I have seen. It may not be the right move, but it's the move I always see NBA coaches do.
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i'm not saying sub the entire 5 but give certain players a 5 minute break especially when 2nd ot starts 2 nminutes on the bench does wonders.
big al was useless sure he had some offense but defense he was gassed give him 2 minutes gametime rest, call halfway through those 2 minutes a time out. by stalling big al could have gotten 5-6 minutes rest and missed 2 game minutes. bring him in and he is rested has more effort on d and we get his o. or isnt my strategy not making sense?
after al comes back in take cj or hayward out and put in burks sames trategy come 1 minute left you put starters back in
 
Brown Notes said:
I'm not buying that NBA players in the middle of March are severely affected by 1 or 2 more minutes in a game. Anyways that post was strictly about the non-subbing in OT. I could be wrong but I think it's a league wide practice. The closers stay in until the game is won, they foul out or are hurt.
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One thing I do believe in relation to minutes is that the Jazz will have a hard time coming out with energy tomorrow night after this 4OT game.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Like I said, that's exactly what the Hawks coach did. That is what most coaches do from all the OT games I have seen. It may not be the right move, but it's the move I always see NBA coaches do.
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I checked, ATL subbed. Willie Green in for Heinrich in the 2nd OT. Probably due to Gordon making a couple plays. It wasn't done due to fatigue IMO. Zaza subbed out with 1 second left once and towards the end with the game out of reach.

If the theory is that once you fire/burn Corbin the next guy won't ride his closers it's probably not going to happen.
 
Just because it's what's always been done doesn't mean it's correct (especially in this case, hello 2 game losing streak!). Then again, 4 OTs isn't exactly typical.
 
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