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MT Steve said:
I'm not arguing with you. I'm not even sure why you're still replying to me, you brought up a separate point I wasn't arguing against and admitted that you agreed with my initial point.
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Nah, see what im arguing with you is that the small ball lineup got torched last night and gave up a bunch of open threes. I didn't agree with those points. And its not something I brought up nor is it separate. You brought it up actually. So I will continue to wait for you to say that small ball worked amazingly last night (which is rather obvious). And again, its a good thing. Not something you should avoid talking about or admitting. Its cool that small ball worked. It gives some hope that if our normal lineup isn't working against a team that is deploying small then we have an option that has worked in the past to try.
 
fishonjazz said:
Maybe that game was an outlier. Maybe we are better at small now than we were then. Maybe in that game we didn't try small ball with no conley and no oneal like we did last night. It didn't work for whatever reason back then, it did last night. Idk. Its something that worked once and could possibly work again.
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That wasn't the only game we went small. There's a large sample size where we had to go small often during injuries to Gobert and Whiteside. In aggregate, we got outscored by over 20 pts per 100 possessions.
 
fishonjazz said:
Nah, see what im arguing with you is that the small ball lineup got torched last night and gave up a bunch of open threes. I didn't agree with those points. And its not something I brought up nor is it separate. You brought it up actually. So I will continue to wait for you to say that small ball worked amazingly last night (which is rather obvious). And again, its a good thing. Not something you should avoid talking about or admitting. Its cool that small ball worked. It gives some hope that if our normal lineup isn't working against a team that is deploying small then we have an option that has worked in the past to try.
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I said it worked last night in my very first post in this thread.

The argument is about how representative it is.
 
fishonjazz said:
Give me some numbers. Go look at the play by play. Explain how they torched the small lineup in the 4th. Tell how long the small ball lineup was out there during this torching. Explain how the torching happened. I dont recall the small ball being torched. I do rememeber it not working as well in a very very small amount of minutes the second time around when they were using it incorrectly by playing royce and conley in the small ball lineup instead of the lineup that worked fantastically.
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You are 100% correct. Everyone saying, "sMaLl bALl DidN't wORk Teh seConD TIme"

Leave out the fact that Conley AND Royce were playing together!!!

Conley was getting destroyed by Brunson.



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reignman40 said:
You are 100% correct. Everyone saying, "sMaLl bALl DidN't wORk Teh seConD TIme"

Leave out the fact that Conley AND Royce were playing together!!!

Conley was getting destroyed by Brunson.



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Well also during the first stint, the Mavs had Bertans in the game for the Jazz to target, because Kleber was in foul trouble.
 
Mitchell the only starter without a negative cumulative +/- in this series and he’s doing it in 40+ mins a game. Meaning the 8 mins he’s out the Jazz are getting royally ****ed by the other starters.

Bogey -4, Conley -17, Gobert -20, and Royce -30

Dan House is +15…. hell Whiteside is +3
 
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MT Steve said:
A lot of dumbasses in here are going to be in for a nasty surprise when our small ball utterly fails to swing the series, and the ginormous sample size from the regular season proves more representative than the tiny handful of minutes in a single game.
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Oh no. So we still lose. The horror.

I'm not going to get into the debate about whether going small is effective but I know what we've done for two and 3/4ths of this series games, and all of last year's playoffs, hasn't worked.

I'd rather go down trying something new instead of doing the exact same thing that's led to a 1-6 record over the last seven playoff games.
 
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We will still win this series. Mavs shots can't keep falling. Play Small, Quin don't miss it up. Bench Rudy Gobert, he is useless in this series
 
Elizah Huge said:
Lol dudes will go to the grave defending Rudy like it’s their life mission **** is hilarious. Did anyone else see how easily we scored the ball and got into the paint when Rudy went out? We scored 31 points in a little over 8 minutes. We did the same thing to them that they do to us. They can’t guard us.
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Amen brother, I will be glad when the Rudy supporters leave when he gets traded. Especially Rudy's wife on here Cy
 
The small ball stopped working because Dallas adjusted their defense and stopped giving up wide open lanes to the basket. It probably seems pretty crazy to us Jazz fans that a coach can make an adjustment mid game, but that's what happened.

Our defense did seem better during small ball. Some of it had to do with random shooting variance as they were missing shots they were making the rest of the game. Some if it does seem to be habit/psychological that when Rudy/Whiteside isn't the game
 
I wouldn't mind being 0-3 if the team were playing with effort on both ends of the floor.
But they're not, it's frustrating because they won't accomplish anything despite the potential.
Unfortunately, we're very close to a rebuild and maybe that's why Ainge came in the first place.
 
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