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Jazz looked.....average,defensively and offensively

Detroit did stomp Atlanta, a 60 win team with one of the best offenses of last year, at home. So yeah, don't feel too bad. Detroit is just clicking right now. All props to Van Gundy.

In the back of my head I always wonder if Quin can really coach our team to play the style of offense he wants. Van Gundy couldn't do it with Monroe/Drummond, so they just didn't bring back Monroe and it looks like it's paying dividends as they are now playing his brand of basketball the way he wants.
 
I got so much **** for saying we should have signed Marco before he signed with the Spurs. I think JFC was 99% against it. (For the historians)
 
franklin said:
Average offense? What offense? Quin needs to hire a specialist and defer.
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It seems that Q's imagination is dependent on gravity guys in a drive-and-kick and PnR heavy flow. Swing swing swing. That can be pretty basketball, but that shoe aint fitting so well in Utah right now.
 
NAOS said:
It seems that Q's imagination is dependent on gravity guys in a drive-and-kick and PnR heavy flow. Swing swing swing. That can be pretty basketball, but that shoe aint fitting so well in Utah right now.
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He's trying to play college ball. It's garbage.
 
King Cy said:
6.3 million a year isn't overpaying for one of the leagues best 3pt shooters. That will be the equivalent of a 2 or 3 million dollar contract next year. He also is a high IQ player who can pass.

Green may not be the highest IQ, but he can light it up from deep and has no conscious when he shoots, which is what we need.
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I'm pretty sure the cap is not increasing by 300%.
 
Siro said:
I'm pretty sure the cap is not increasing by 300%.
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A 300% increase from 2-3 million would be 8-12 million.

From 2:
100% increase = 4
200% increase = 6
300% increase = 8

Either way, that is not how contracts work. With all the extra money people have been getting, an elite shooting will be getting way more than 6 million in the coming years (or that will be average and not a bad contract). I dont see it as an overpay given the current cap and a very good pay given future cap.
 
King Cy said:
A 300% increase from 2-3 million would be 8-12 million.

From 2:
100% increase = 4
200% increase = 6
300% increase = 8

Either way, that is not how contracts work. With all the extra money people have been getting, an elite shooting will be getting way more than 6 million in the coming years (or that will be average and not a bad contract). I dont see it as an overpay given the current cap and a very good pay given future cap.
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Your finger counting aside, I used your lower figure of 2m, which is 225% increase from 6.5m. Cap is increasing by what? 30%? Your new justification doesn't make sense either. Money gotta come from somewhere. If ~3x salaries are the norm for shooters now, then I expect that other roles will have their salaries cut in a similar proportion? :rolleyes:

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Neto (+12) had the highest plus minus! Why, he played zero minutes next to Burke who was -15 in just 16 min. Basically we won that game but **** ourselves hard when Burke was on the court.

Burks was -12 while putting up 18 pts and getting 6 boards. What gives? He played a large portion of his minutes next to Burke. He clearly had a positive +- in the 4th. I bet he was +3 when not playing next to Burke. I bet that's why his +- is 3 points better than TB's.

Addition by subtraction. Get rid of Burke
 
Siro said:
Your finger counting aside, I used your lower figure of 2m, which is 225% increase from 6.5m. Cap is increasing by what? 30%? Your new justification doesn't make sense either. Money gotta come from somewhere. If ~3x salaries are the norm for shooters now, then I expect that other roles will have their salaries cut in a similar proportion? :rolleyes:

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30% rise in cap doesn't mean that money is getting evenly distributed to everyone as is. Teams are still going to have the minimum contracts and vet minimum contracts making up 5 or so players. The 30% is going to the guys who play.

Exact numbers aside, I don't believe Bellineli is currently overpaid and I firmly his contract will look great once the new cap kicks in.
 
NAOS said:
I got so much **** for saying we should have signed Marco before he signed with the Spurs. I think JFC was 99% against it. (For the historians)
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Do you want a cookie bro?

Well, I wanted to trade for Harden. I guess I'm a better imaginary GM than you.
 
♪alt13 said:
Neto (+12) had the highest plus minus! Why, he played zero minutes next to Burke who was -15 in just 16 min. Basically we won that game but **** ourselves hard when Burke was on the court.

Burks was -12 while putting up 18 pts and getting 6 boards. What gives? He played a large portion of his minutes next to Burke. He clearly had a positive +- in the 4th. I bet he was +3 when not playing next to Burke. I bet that's why his +- is 3 points better than TB's.

Addition by subtraction. Get rid of Burke
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remember when people were talking about the "Core 4"?

Looks like 2 of those are going to go down as total busts (as far as we're concerned). Not a good average.
 
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