Jazz @ Mavericks Game Thread 6:30 MT 2/9/17

[Cappy_Smurf]

Hope this game is a Quin Snyder "Wake up!!!" moment. Can't imagine Pops would take a game like this lying down in San Antonio.

Last year, there were games that Utah had complete control of, and the next thing you know Quin would piss away the lead with some WTF lineup, like having Hayward and Hood on the bench at the same time. It was so bad, I was convinced Utah was still somewhat tanking, or at least wasn't prioritizing winning over team development, such as putting them in a position to fight in a close game.

Welp, so much for that. I like Quin, but I have to seriously question his player management at times. He's going to be here for a while, so I guess all we can do is hope he gets a better feel for how he's using players.

 

[Nate505]

What a terrible loss. Some absolute dumbass play at the end by the Jazz. Just really unintelligent play.

 

[Spinoza]

This team reverted back to two years ago, everything that could go wrong did. Embarrassing loss. Hey AB, pass the god damn ha when three ****ers are guarding u!!! Holy ****!! Why in the hell is both Favors and Dias in at the same ****ing time. That's what Dallas wanted. They ****ing ran the same ****ing play every ****ing god damn time, and ****ing blew us up every time!! Yes Gobert made a really stupid **** bead mistake and bone headed foul, but it was ****ing Quin who threw Gobert under the bus continually leaving Gobert to guard smaller quicker guys on the perimeter. Do something u idiot coach!!! My god!!

Some of these are definitely making it the Mavs' "Quotes from the Utah Jazz forums" thread.

 

[JazzForLifee]

well at least this didn't happen during playoffs. on to the next one


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

How bout that Exum 4 point swing to start the 4th where he didnt box out on a FT then turned to the ref to complain while dribbling and got ripped for a layup.

 

[Coach Ellis]

How bout that Exum 4 point swing to start the 4th where he didnt box out on a FT then turned to the ref to complain while dribbling and got ripped for a layup.

Yeah. That was bad. Dumb rookie mistake. Can't let the game get to you like that. Gotta be in control all the time. That was when I started to worry that it would go sideways on them. Seemed like the whole team was in their heels at that point.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

We were up by 20 when I walked into Lego Batman. Wat?

 

[MT Steve]

How bout that Exum 4 point swing to start the 4th where he didnt box out on a FT then turned to the ref to complain while dribbling and got ripped for a layup.

Sure, but that accounts for 4 points in an overall 28 point swing to a team 11 games below .500.

Mentally, when the Jazz are the aggressors, they're ****ing amazing. When the mindset shifts from "Let's ball out and kill these guys" to "Let's hold onto the lead and not blow it", then they immediately become terrible and start making stupid mistakes.

 

[MT Steve]

If at the point the Jazz were up by 21 it would've been possible to brainwash the whole team into believe they were actually DOWN 21, they probably would've ended up winning by 40.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Sure, but that accounts for 4 points in an overall 28 point swing to a team 11 games below .500.

Mentally, when the Jazz are the aggressors, they're ****ing amazing. When the mindset shifts from "Let's ball out and kill these guys" to "Let's hold onto the lead and not blow it", then they immediately become terrible and start making stupid mistakes.

It was a giant momentum swing that got their crowd into the game. That and Hayward just letting Matthews take wide open shots are the two biggest things that really propelled the Mavs to go on their run.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

Ouch, that felt a little bit like the Falcons meltdown a couple days ago. Gotta give them credit though, that team doesn't lie down for anybody, and we just looked gassed by the time we got to OT. Kinda scary how valuable Hill is to this team as well.

 

[The Midnight]

Turning point was when Gobert fouled out.

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Harrison Barnes: "When he goes out of the game, it's just like blood is in the water."

 

[Revolution 9]

Just when you start to feel like superman.....bambi shows up instead.

 

[Siro]

I think if Gobert had sustained a season ending injury this offseason, the team would be competing with the other baddies for the 8th spot.

 

[veji1]

Gee some overreacting comments here ! bad loss, it happens, it reminds the players and the coach that nothing is ever in control, it reminds them not to get cocky, it reminds Gobert that he is great but can get exposed on D too, it reminds the team that having Gobert to cover your defense as a gigantic safety is great but if you leave him hanging he will get exposed and foul and then you are in the doodoo. Basically having has those lapses now is a lot better than having them in a playoff game !

 

[Coach Ellis]

Still shocked that they didn't run a basic press break to end the game. That to me is egregious. Every high school team is taught how to get the ball across mid court against an aggressive full court press. Jazz seemed surprised that the Mavs would defend them that way. Horrible decision to get the ball to Burks on that. If it ends up in the hands of ANY of Hayward, Jingles, JJ or even Diaw, I have to believe that they make a better decision than Burks did. Should have been Jingles in bounding to either Hayward or JJ with Burks flashing to mid court. Get the ball in, and then strait back to the inbound passer with multiple guys at different levels. Basically, they handed the Mavs the game by playing that like they did. All the other stuff aside, they had the game won if they executed that press break with even a minimal amount of competency.

 

[elan_prodigy]

So.... bad loss.

Bad loss in the sense that we can't take much away from it... Gobert will learn from his mistake but I'm kind of disappointment Quin didn't stick with Dante, I would have loved to see him get a chance down the stretch, I think it would have been great for his development even if it somehow cost us the game.

btw I thought the writing was on the wall after those 3 Alley oops and we got a bit too smiley, bit too jokey and lost focus. We are a talented side but we aren't good enough to just flip the switch on and off.

Some of the line ups tonight were trash. I'd have liked to have seen Dante and AB start and really push the pace.

Anyway, on to the next one.

 

[LoPo]

Do we overrate Favors? All I read and see tells me that we have elite defense and chemistry when Gobert is on the floor. When he isn't, we suck defensively. If Favors is such an athletic defending big like we sell him to be, why do we struggle so much when he's our anchor?

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[Aneurism]

but I'm kind of disappointment Quin didn't stick with Dante, I would have loved to see him get a chance down the stretch,

We probably saw different games, because Dante was looking lost of defense and offense.. had his head in the clouds.. had some inexcusable turnovers.. His only saving grace was that he had more length than Shelvin Mack and that isn't saying much. Also, he still looks like there is a ball and chain around his ankle when he lays up..

Whenever Exum tries to push the pace, he is sloppy and has very little control..
Quite honestly, I'd rather see Dante go to the D league for an extended period of time and have Neto play instead.

 

[candrew]

Still shocked that they didn't run a basic press break to end the game. That to me is egregious. Every high school team is taught how to get the ball across mid court against an aggressive full court press. Jazz seemed surprised that the Mavs would defend them that way. Horrible decision to get the ball to Burks on that. If it ends up in the hands of ANY of Hayward, Jingles, JJ or even Diaw, I have to believe that they make a better decision than Burks did. Should have been Jingles in bounding to either Hayward or JJ with Burks flashing to mid court. Get the ball in, and then strait back to the inbound passer with multiple guys at different levels. Basically, they handed the Mavs the game by playing that like they did. All the other stuff aside, they had the game won if they executed that press break with even a minimal amount of competency.

Gotta give Carlisle a lot of credit. Up 4 with 19 seconds The Jazz obviously thought Dallas would foul immediately; but without a true PG inbounding from backcourt they were vulnerable and he recognized that.