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What other FO positions need filling? Haven't kept track of who has left their position other than DL. My assumption was Zanik is fully taking over GM/Basketball operation duties and that's kind of the end of it.
Local reporters have mentioned it may be a different structuring and more than one position will likely be added/hired. I think you could see medical/training staff shake ups. Idk, Windhorst mentioned the ankle thing was a big deal to Mitchell. Whoever made that mistake (maybe it was Dennis who caused the confusion idk) I’d guess will be shown the door.
 
So this year we could have had Rivers, Portis, and Craig, and maybe Batum, all on the cheap. Imagine them instead of Oni, Favors, and Niang. We move forward easily.
Didn’t the jazz try to sign Batum and he picked the Clippers over us? Not sure we needed Rivers. Portis or Craig would’ve been nice.
I blamed my wife (and still do) for the 98 Finals loss. I had asked her to let me watch alone and in peace and towards the last few minutes of the 4th, we were ahead and she came out and stayed in the room with me.

We never scored again from that point on in the game and then Jordan had his push off shot to win.

Blasphemy on so many levels.
And you’re still with her, why?
 
Moves I would make:

Bojan for Kuzma, #22 and future draft considerations

S&T Conley to Philly, Boston or Indiana. Get Brogdon, Smart and an asset, 3 team where Simmons goes elsewhere and we get something.

If Charlotte throws us the kitchen sink with an offer for Rudy in October, take it if we still have Favors and Doke.





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You're starting to sell me on the Kuzma idea, even though I still think he can only go so far. I didn't realize his contract was so much smaller than Bojan's, and lord knows the picks are needed.

I don't think Conley will agree to a sign and trade, or a potential new team would, but I'd kill to put Smart next to Donovan.
 
We want Kelly Oubre, Robert Covington, or Christian Wood. Preferably Wood and we all it an off-season
 
As we spend the early offseason bantering back and forth on what we think the Jazz should or will do in the upcoming weeks, there’s one mental road block that keeps popping up, reminding me that for the first time in 37 years of being a Jazz fan, I probably have ZERO idea of what the Jazz will do.

I realize that while we’ve seen a few different FO’s during that span, we also haven’t seen a FO operate that wasn’t ran by the Millers. The fact of the matter is that the Layden’s and their philosophies weren’t any different than KOC and his philosophies. Hell, that’s EXACTLY why KOC was hired. He fit the Miller mindset to a “T” and it’s no accident that Lindsey was the next man up after KOC. As a fan base, we’ve been spoon fed the EXACT same philosophy from our Front Office for the last 40 years because that mindset was the marching orders handed down my Miller ownership.

I can honestly say that for the first time in 4 decades, we’re in uncharted territory. In looking into Ryan Smith’s business philosophies, he seems to really key on one major talking point: Complacency will kill you faster that anything. It goes hand in hand with the age old mantra that the biggest enemy to great is good. The truth is, we could come up with 100 reasons why Larry and Gail Miller were fantastic owners, but at the same time, it would be extremely easy to come up with just as many reasons why this team was never winning a title under Miller ownership. To put it bluntly, they were happy being really good, and were not willing to put that at risk for the chance at being great.

I’ll readily admit that I have absolutely no idea what Ryan Smith is about to do, but I feel extremely confident that for the first time in ages, it will be something different. I think it’s pretty clear that Smith didn’t give D-Wade a REALLY sweet deal to own a small chunk of the Jazz just so he could show him off sitting court side all season long. Smith realizes that the status quo isn’t gonna win us anything and that it’s also the quickest way to run Donovan out of town. D-Wade is going to be a major player in how this roster looks going forward and I’m pretty excited to see what that looks like.
I think it’s very feasible that the 2021-22 Utah Jazz roster doesn’t have Bogey, Jingles, Favors, and maybe even Rudy anywhere to be seen come opening night. Ryan Smith is absolutely terrified of complacency and if he runs his basketball team like he runs his business, we’re going to learn that very quickly.
I wish I could agree with you here, but I just don’t see it. Nothing crazy will happen. Bogey should be traded, but likely won’t be.

Rudy is going to be on the roster this upcoming season. You can write that on a stone tablet.
 
I am thinking our worries are less wing defense but more Point of attack, guard defense. Anyways, Jazz simply need to improve wherever they can on perimeter. Can't really play 3 of Mitchell, Clarkson, Ingles, Bogey at the same time.

One of them needs to go or they get some of their minutes down and then we may have a situation on our hands with unhappy players. In the playoffs, if healthy, Mitchell can player closer to 40 and that may mean even less minutes for the rest of them.

Jazz are in a bind. They need a 2 way player in the worst way.
 
I wish I could agree with you here, but I just don’t see it. Nothing crazy will happen. Bogey should be traded, but likely won’t be.

Rudy is going to be on the roster this upcoming season. You can write that on a stone tablet.
I should’ve qualified my post a bit more pointing out that even if Smith is who I think he is, he’s not going to be able to simply wave a magic wand in his first offseason as owner and cure all of the Jazz’s ailments. Also, while I’m 100% certain that Smith is going to do whatever it takes to distance himself from the Miller Status Quo, there’s no guarantees that it will work. We’ve seen aggressive GM’s/Owners crash and burn time and time again.

On the Rudy thing, I’d be shocked if he was moved this offseason. I think Smith will want to see what 1 more season of a Donovan/Rudy core looks like with some added perimeter defense. However, unlike Lindsey, I think a brain trust of Smith/Wade/and Zanik are much more likely to guage the market to see what a potential package with Rudy as the centerpiece could get the Jazz in return.
 
I am thinking our worries are less wing defense but more Point of attack, guard defense. Anyways, Jazz simply need to improve wherever they can on perimeter. Can't really play 3 of Mitchell, Clarkson, Ingles, Bogey at the same time.

One of them needs to go or they get some of their minutes down and then we may have a situation on our hands with unhappy players. In the playoffs, if healthy, Mitchell can player closer to 40 and that may mean even less minutes for the rest of them.

Jazz are in a bind. They need a 2 way player in the worst way.
Very good post. It's hard to win with 3 of Clarkson, Joe, Don, Mike and Bojan on the floor.

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I hate the Kuzma idea. Don’t want him anywhere near this team.
If we want a Slim Shady look-a-like, may as well get the cheaper version of Daniel Theis. Or even the real Slim Shady.

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tl;dr just say no
 
Vrenz shot just over 50% from the free throw line. That’s a concern I haven’t seen mentioned. His height looks legit to me. And he certainly looks over 200 pounds. He’s the thickest looking 205 pound dude at that height I’ve ever seen. He reminds me a lot of Saric coming out. Quick release on the 3. Can handle the ball and penetrate. A bit of offensive swagger. Questionable on d. Very Saric-ish vibe to me. But the rebounding numbers are pretty bad given his size and athleticism.
 
Moves I would make:

Bojan for Kuzma, #22 and future draft considerations

S&T Conley to Philly, Boston or Indiana. Get Brogdon, Smart and an asset, 3 team where Simmons goes elsewhere and we get something.

If Charlotte throws us the kitchen sink with an offer for Rudy in October, take it if we still have Favors and Doke.





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I'm coming around to the Kuzma idea. Being on a team with LeBron mixed with being in LA everyone is expected to be an all-star level player. A change of scenery might be exactly what he needs. Swapping out Bojan for Kuzma lowers your floor but potentially raises the ceiling for the future if he figures it out like other players who have left the bright lights of LA (see Jordan Clarkson). You would save $5.5m this upcoming season and $6.3m the following and pocketing some draft picks in the process would not be the worst of things. It definitely would be a high risk high reward type of deal.
 
Very good post. It's hard to win with 3 of Clarkson, Joe, Don, Mike and Bojan on the floor.

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It is really defense everywhere in the backcourt that is the issue.

This is why guys like Naismith defensive player of the year Marcus Garrett are intriguing. Has the combination of length and athleticism to guard 1-3, and can shoot the 3 well enough. May well be a UFA or late second guy we could buy in for.
 
Didn’t the jazz try to sign Batum and he picked the Clippers over us? Not sure we needed Rivers. Portis or Craig would’ve been nice.

And you’re still with her, why?
Rivers would have been better than Oni, and actually about the same if not cheaper.
 
**** it. I’m buying Mitchell being able to lead Kuzma to maximize his talent.

Kuzma, #22, and the Iowa State kid for Conley. We’d free up around ~20M that way.

Then do everything you can to trade Favors. We’d then be free of ~35M and have a decent amount to spend on a FA pg and another player.
 
Vrenz shot just over 50% from the free throw line. That’s a concern I haven’t seen mentioned. His height looks legit to me. And he certainly looks over 200 pounds. He’s the thickest looking 205 pound dude at that height I’ve ever seen. He reminds me a lot of Saric coming out. Quick release on the 3. Can handle the ball and penetrate. A bit of offensive swagger. Questionable on d. Very Saric-ish vibe to me. But the rebounding numbers are pretty bad given his size and athleticism.
The only thing that concerns me significantly is that FT%. That's really terrible.

I think he is primarily operating as a 3 so I don't know how apt these comparisons to Saric or Zingis are. More Ingles-esque in my mind.
 
**** it. I’m buying Mitchell being able to lead Kuzma to maximize his talent.

Kuzma, the Iowa State kid and a future 1st for Conley. We’d free up around ~20M that way.

Then do everything you can to trade Favors. We’d then be free of ~35M and have a decent amount to spend on a FA pg and another player.
The Jazz will have the full MLE at most.
 
Vrenz shot just over 50% from the free throw line. That’s a concern I haven’t seen mentioned. His height looks legit to me. And he certainly looks over 200 pounds. He’s the thickest looking 205 pound dude at that height I’ve ever seen. He reminds me a lot of Saric coming out. Quick release on the 3. Can handle the ball and penetrate. A bit of offensive swagger. Questionable on d. Very Saric-ish vibe to me. But the rebounding numbers are pretty bad given his size and athleticism.
So Ben Simmons ultra-light? Doesn't sound great.
 
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