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Jazz players in the Olympics

Croatia with the big upset. Saric with the enormous block of Gasol. Have no clue why Spanish coach stuck with Fernandez. He was pretty awful. Abrines should have been given a chance. OKC thinks he is pretty good.
 
King Cy said:
Sabonis is going to struggle in NBA.

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I've been saying this for awhile. He is a NBA un-athletic Center in a PF's body. He will get eaten up alive in the NBA. Think Hoffa Arujo or whatever that BYU kid's name was.
 
green said:
I've been saying this for awhile. He is a NBA un-athletic Center in a PF's body. He will get eaten up alive in the NBA. Think Hoffa Arujo or whatever that BYU kid's name was.
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You couldn't find more opposite player to compare. Araujo had no basketball fundamentals or IQ. Sabonis on the other hand has extremely good fundamentals and basketball IQ. He will struggle first year and will be just fine after that. Not like Zack Randolph was athletic freak yet he found a ways to be very effective.
 
MVP said:
You couldn't find more opposite player to compare. Araujo had no basketball fundamentals or IQ. Sabonis on the other hand has extremely good fundamentals and basketball IQ. He will struggle first year and will be just fine after that. Not like Zack Randolph was athletic freak yet he found a ways to be very effective.
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Zach Randolph also has super long arms and was/is stronger than Sabonis will ever be. Certainly a more unique athlete than Sabonis I'd say.
 
MVP said:
Lol, obviously. But officiating was terrible in the end. Brazil got away with over the backs, grabbing and shoving, and Lithuania was called constantly for nothing.
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I didn't watch any of the game, but I definitely think the refs favored Lithuania.
 
LazyD said:
Zach Randolph also has super long arms and was/is stronger than Sabonis will ever be. Certainly a more unique athlete than Sabonis I'd say.
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Agree with Zack having longer arms. Sabonis has two inches on him though and is strong as a bull as well. Its not far fetched to predict that he will be as strong or stronger then Zach in few years.
 
LazyD said:
Zach Randolph also has super long arms and was/is stronger than Sabonis will ever be. Certainly a more unique athlete than Sabonis I'd say.
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I think most of Utah folks are butt hurt because Sabonis dominated BYU and Utah any time they played... I remember somebody here was saying he will struggle with Kaufusi or Poeltl and yet he wiped the floor with both of them. I just love watching this tough kid proving doubters wrong again and again.
 
MVP said:
I think most of Utah folks are butt hurt because Sabonis dominated BYU and Utah any time they played... I remember somebody here was saying he will struggle with Kaufusi or Poeltl and yet he wiped the floor with both of them. I just love watching this tough kid proving doubters wrong again and again.
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That could be. In our cases, however, you are a homer and I am neither from Utah nor a fan of the Utes. Sabonis is not 'strong as a bull' relatively speaking - he's in the NBA now. He could be a good pro, no one knows at this point, but he will never be able to get the post position Randolph does nor have a butt Randolphs size to be able to play on the block and box people out as effectively. It's likely he'll never have his touch around the rim either. Becoming a better shooter and passer seems very possible tho. I am rooting for him and hope he has a good NBA career.

#butthurtfree
 
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LazyD said:
That could be. In our cases, however, you are a homer and I am neither from Utah nor a fan of the Utes. Sabonis is not 'strong as a bull' relatively speaking - he's in the NBA now. He could be a good pro, no one knows at this point, but he will never be able to get the post position Randolph does nor have a butt Randolphs size to be able to play on the block and box people out as effectively. It's likely he'll never have his touch around the rim either. Becoming a better shooter and passer seems very possible tho. I am rooting for him and hope he has a good NBA career.

#butthurtfree
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If anything from skills translates well from student basketball to NBA is rebounding, and Sabonis was one of the most dominant rebounders in NCAA. So claiming he won't be able to box out people effectively like Randolph just because of butt size is strange. I think it is more to rebounding than just butt size. And for 20 year old kid he was much stronger then most of his opponents so I believe it is safe to predict his strength in the future NBA should not be a problem.
 
MVP said:
If anything from skills translates well from student basketball to NBA is rebounding, and Sabonis was one of the most dominant rebounders in NCAA. So claiming he won't be able to box out people effectively like Randolph just because of butt size is strange. I think it is more to rebounding than just butt size. And for 20 year old kid he was much stronger then most of his opponents so I believe it is safe to predict his strength in the future NBA should not be a problem.
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Good. He should have been a dominant rebounder in college considering he was extraordinarily tall (given his mobility) for the college game and especially for his non-P5 conference. It just seems silly to laugh off someone else's comparison for him and then use Randolph to help your case, considering he possesses physical abilities and skills that have nothing to do with Sabonis.

You don't think Sabonis's relatively short arms will be problematic, at least Defensively and rebounding wise? Doesn't matter if you're really tall when nearly everyone at your position can reach much higher than you can. He's got a nice wingspan for a wing player I guess.
 
LazyD said:
Good. He should have been a dominant rebounder in college considering he was extraordinarily tall (given his mobility) for the college game and especially for his non-P5 conference. It just seems silly to laugh off someone else's comparison for him and then use Randolph to help your case, considering he possesses physical abilities and skills that have nothing to do with Sabonis.

You don't think Sabonis's relatively short arms will be problematic, at least Defensively and rebounding wise? Doesn't matter if you're really tall when nearly everyone at your position can reach much higher than you can. He's got a nice wingspan for a wing player I guess.
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I wish we would have a chance to compare standing reach of both Sabonis and Randolph because it would be better measurement than wingspan or height - too bad I cant find such data. I picked Randolph because he has similar set of skills - lefty with great footwork, soft touch around the basket, good basketball IQ and great rebounding ability despite limited leaping ability. Luis Scola is another example which may fit Sabonis future NBA model. But Araujo? lol
 
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green said:
I've been saying this for awhile. He is a NBA un-athletic Center in a PF's body. He will get eaten up alive in the NBA. Think Hoffa Arujo or whatever that BYU kid's name was.
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OK but what got him so high in the pre-draft workouts were stories about his improved shooting was it not?
 
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