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Jazz Playoff Watch

theNBAnerd said:
then we fundamentally disagree on the value of having guys who have playoff résumés. you know what you get when you put together a team full of late lottery picks that haven't been the playoffs? the golden state warriors. if that's your goal, then you go right ahead and root for tanking. i'll be pulling for the jazz to win tonight.
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Could you please elaborate how exactly Playoffs 2010 experience helped Charlotte Bobcats?
 
yeah, and denver has to face the same pesky, hungry suns team we just faced. the jazz will have chances to get back in this. if they win...
 
zbone said:
Could you please elaborate how exactly Playoffs 2010 experience helped Charlotte Bobcats?
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completely different situation. that wasn't a team of rising stars. all of the bobcats' best players that year were guys who were either peaking or had already peaked: wallace, jackson, diaw, mohammed. none of those guys were the future of the bobcats, which is why every last one of them plays for a different team now.

the closest thing they had to a "rising star" was raymond felton -- who also no longer plays for that team anymore.
 
theNBAnerd said:
completely different situation. that wasn't a team of rising stars. all of the bobcats' best players that year were guys who were either peaking or had already peaked: wallace, jackson, diaw, mohammed. none of those guys were the future of the bobcats, which is why every last one of them plays for a different team now.

the closest thing they had to a "rising star" was raymond felton -- who also no longer plays for that team anymore.
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Bucks in Playoffs 2006? Full of youngs, went down to Pistons 4-1 in 1st round. Finished 5th in their division next 3 years. Then fringe playoffs team.
 
zbone said:
Bucks in Playoffs 2006? Full of youngs, went down to Pistons 4-1 in 1st round. Finished 5th in their division next 3 years. Then fringe playoffs team.
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sure, as long as by "full of youngs" you mean andrew bogut. and at-his-peak michael redd was their best player, followed by bobby simmons, bogut and magloire. bogut and redd both had major injuries the following season.

none of the teams you're talking about had the situation the jazz have -- half the roster is 1st and 2nd year players and they're building toward something.
 
theNBAnerd said:
sure, as long as by "full of youngs" you mean andrew bogut. and at-his-peak michael redd was their best player, followed by bobby simmons, bogut and magloire. bogut and redd both had major injuries the following season.

none of the teams you're talking about had the situation the jazz have -- half the roster is 1st and 2nd year players and they're building toward something.
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Redd and Bogut played 72 and 78 games accordingly. How is that major injuries?
If TJ Ford (22), Bogut (21), Mo Williams (23) playing 3rd, 4th and 6th biggest minutes isn't youth movement just like the Jazz then you are in denial my friend. Add to that they had a lot of players playing big minutes in their mid twenties just like us.
 
So the Jazz are 2 games in the loss column behind Denver and Houston with 10 games to play. If we get in the playoffs, it's going to come down to a tie-breaker probably.
 
theNBAnerd said:
first problem with your logic: you are assuming we won't get the GSW pick. i still think we will.

second problem with your logic: you're assuming that a 14th pick in the draft (marcus morris, patrick patterson, earl clark, anthony randolph, al thornton, ronnie brewer, rashad mccants, kris humphries, etc.) is going to be such a difference-maker that it's worth more than the invaluable playoff experience we'd be giving favors, hayward, burks, etc.

the 14th pick is not a huge asset. look at that list. not a single impact player on that list. thornton was good for a minute but now is out of the league. patterson is in and out of houston's lineup. brewer is a role player. it took humphries 7-8 years to become the 4th best player on a lottery team.

and you want that over the playoffs -- THAT's mind-boggling.
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+1
 
Damn, I really want that sixth seed. I want the matchup with the Lakers because I think we can beat them.
 
Playoff watch? For who? the Suns? Nugheads? Cuz we ain't goin to the playoffs folks. And even if we did, would we really want to see 4 blowouts like today? ugh.
 
GlassEater said:
The schedule down the stretch is pretty favorable. I could see the Jazz going 6-3 (losses at Memphis and Houston and perhaps tomorrow vs. SA).
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On the one hand: I originally had them at 4-5, but with losses to Dallas and Portland that now seem like they could flip because the Mavs and Blazers are not playing as well as they once were. Maybe 6-3 is possible.

On the other hand: The Jazz are also not playing as well (3-6 in their last 9), so maybe they aren't automatically going to win the final three at home, or maybe they won't flip both games I originally saw them losing.
 
udflyer said:
David Locke thinks 5-4 and maybe we are in, 6-3 definitely.
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I'm not quite sure about 5-4. That puts the Jazz at 34 wins, so Denver only has to go 5-5 to beat that (Jazz own tiebreaker based on head-to-head). I know they're just under .500 recently, but 5-5 is within reason. Dallas only has to go 3-6 to tie (Dallas owns the tiebreaker). Not unreasonable. Even if the Jazz go 6-3, Denver could go 6-4 and Dallas 4-5 and the Jazz are still on the outside looking in.

Now that I look at the numbers and schedules, I can't see the Jazz catching the Mavs unless they completely fall apart. But as long as they win their 3 home games (Sac, Hou and GS), they probably only need to win 1 out of 6 road games to edge the Jazz. Denver and the 8th seed is the best chance. I think it will take 35 wins (6-3) to get there, and even that isn't a sure thing.
 
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