Jazz Pre-Draft Workouts
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Gyp Rosetti
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We have Hayward at SG. And you draft the BPA. Next year's draft has plenty of 1-3's anyway.
Who is to say that the BPA isn't a SG/PG/SF. Right now the Jazz have no backup PG, team option w CJ and Hayward. Hayward can't play 48 minutes a night. I know we have Raja but he was pretty much useless. AK mostly likely won't be back. I know the Jazz will fill spots with FAs but if the decision comes down to similar talented players then you pick for need and the Jazz need to upgrade their backcourt.
Just opinions ...
Next years loaded with SF's.
SG is a little weak with only 2 elite (Rivers/Beal) and 1 other border lottery in Jeremy Lamb.
PG, imo, is weak (Kabongo and Teague both have a lot to prove before they're considered elite NBA prospects) and 2013 will be just as weak.
billyshelby
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Even if the Jazz drafted 'need,' the chance any wing player they draft will be ready for regular minutes is very low. Last year's picks around the 12: Hayward, George, Henry. Hayward was totally worthless until the 2nd half, George drew a bunch of DNP's out of the gate, and Henry basically never got off the bench. The year before that was DeRozan, Williams, Henderson, Daye. DeRozan played. The other three didn't see consistent minutes.
Doesn't mean a Thompson, Singleton, Burks, or Hamilton won't be ready for a regular rotation role, just that it is very unlikely.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Call me old fashioned but I don't want Millsap playing that many minutes at sf, with exeption for when the right match ups come along.
We need more depth at the wing. Drafting two big men I think is counterproductive as far as building this team. We need more wings that can score and shoot on the wing wether it is Jimmer as a backup point or a sg or sf that can shoot or create their own shot the only half decent wing we have is Hayward. Bismack shouldn't be in are future.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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If Okur can play minutes you can't just let him wast away on the bench especially if we want to trade him mid season. Okur would be more valuable to other teams if he is getting minutes and contributing to the team.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
I hear ya. On odd numbered days I'd probably agree with you. But if Burks is there, while I like him, he too is redundant considering we have Hayward who I am convinced can not play defense as a 3. I suppose a Kanter/Fredette or Kanter/trade #12 and player for a 1st next year wouldn't be bad.
Jazz4ever
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It looks like JV will be making a cameo in Treviso after all.
https://www.lithuaniabasketball.com...-to-meet-with-seven-nba-teams-in-treviso.html
https://www.lithuaniabasketball.com...-to-meet-with-seven-nba-teams-in-treviso.html
The same thing could be said about drafting Biyombo at 12. Do you think Biyombo is going to get playing time over AJ, Millsap, Favors, Kanter and Okur? The person we draft at 12 has a better chance of playing if he is a PG or SF or SG because the Jazz have little depth at those positions.
Next year draft will only be loaded if the NBA doesn't change its policy of one and done. There is talk they will require two years of college before entering the NBA so there is a good possibility that the 2012 won't be as loaded as some think.
Besides the fact that the lowest the GS pick can be is 8th for the Jazz to get it. The Jazz may not even have a 1st next year if we make the playoffs and GS sucks so bad they get a top 7 pick. So expecting that we get a SF next year is counting all your eggs before they hatch.
billyshelby
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This introduces the other part of the argument. Finding an impact big is much harder than finding wing players. It doesn't matter if Biyombo gets a lot of time and I suspect he wouldn't in his rookie year. But I'd much rather sort out a team with Sap/Al/Favors/Biyombo going forward than be forced to play a Francisco Elson.
The other wrinkle is financial: You can get a ton of good wings for the MLE (or that type of money.) Bigs cost a lot more. Doesn't mean you pass on a wing you love at 12 if he's there, but if you're between guard/forward and center who are basically equal on your board, you take the center even if you've got lots of depth.
Zerol
Active Member
Hayward was only in his rookie season and he didn't even play much. You cannot be convinced other than that he cannot play center and he is not black. The rest will be determined by his developed but anything is possible.
GVC
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If AK isn't brought back, and Memo isn't his old self if he returns at all, picking up Derrick Williams and Bismack Biyombo would work out fine (assuming Millsap and Williams are good enough to play most/all the available minutes at the 3). 144 minutes at the 3-4-5 for 5 players, with two rookies in the mix (one of them quite raw). If Bismack were only good for 20 minutes, that leaves 31 minutes per for AJ, Favors, Sap and DWill. Make due with Hayward, Raja and CJ at the 2, and the Jazz are suddenly a very deep team (if they can pick up a reliable backup PG or re-sign Earl). As I've stated before, I'd be thrilled if the Jazz acquired a late first to draft Charles Jenkins (or Reggie Jackson). Would leave the Jazz with a very nice mix of talent.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Makes no sense. Either you like to lose at gambling or you actually believe that Fes is not his ceiling.
GVC
Well-Known Member
You don't need an all-star at every position, but Hayward could be special (and I absolutely hated the Hayward pick). There are plenty of good teams who'd love to have their fifth best starter be as good as Hayward should become.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
Half? That's being kind.
jazzrule
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This ^
Sure would like to see the HALF from Miles, if we did he would be a keeper.