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Jazz select Grayson Allen at 21

Grayson's Hands said:
Right. I don’t care if you’re Steph Curry and those are wide open threes. 85/100 is damn hard to do.
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Unless you’re jimmer. Then it’s a piece of cake.
 
nateboz said:
Do you not see 2's and 3's switch on defense like 50 percent of plays?

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you said: "He's 6'4 in shoes. He is going to have to defend guys 6'8 every night"

Okay, so you meant to say that he is going to have to switch onto guys who are 6'8 every night -- that was not clear from your post. I think most would have assumed you were talking about his primary match up, which will very rarely be 6'8.

I don't think you'll find facts to support 2-3 switches on 50% of all plays -- that is ~50 plays per night. Hyperbole is one thing, but that has got to be a large error
 
NUMBERICA said:
If it was only $500k (yes, ONLY $500k), every fan should have a bad taste in their mouth. Especially if that amount would've been enough to move up.
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If DL felt that he could get the same value from an undrafted free agent that he would have gotten from the pick, why not take the green? Obviously, there was no one there that he had any excitement about.
 
elan_prodigy said:
Yeh I get the technicality of it but we were picking for Houston. Its like Nuggets fans claiming they traded away DM.
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How do you know? Nothing seems to indicate this. He may have been a Rockets target and they were going to sign him if he went undrafted, or they may have planned to offer the dough to whoever drafted him. All these deals are not necessarily arranged in advance.
 
silesian said:
It looked like Grayson smacked himself in the face with his left hand before Spida slapped him a second time. Am I missing something?
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Yea, but it's like when the big brother takes the arm of the younger brother and makes him smack himself, then says "stop hitting yourself".
 
fishonjazz said:
That was kind of my point. If Lindsey sucks at drafting second rounders then I don’t really want him drafting second rounders.

He seems good at getting guys after the draft is over though (O’Neal, jingles). I say we keep doing that.
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Jazz intellectual capital bandwidth is not unlimited. I'm sure they invest 10X the time evaluating first round talent vs 2nd round talent. Probably much more efficient and effective to get 10-15 players from D League, 2-ways, free agency, etc, when decisions can be made based on more data.
 
It seems like the approach that DL and the front office has to second round picks is that if they can find a way to draft specific players that they like then they will, but if they can't then they would rather trade the pick away than use it on a prospect that they don't have faith in. That's fine with me. Especially when the Jazz are so good at finding gems who went undrafted or are hidden overseas.
 
SCS said:
It seems like the approach that DL and the front office has to second round picks is that if they can find a way to draft specific players that they like then they will, but if they can't then they would rather trade the pick away than use it on a prospect that they don't have faith in. That's fine with me. Especially when the Jazz are so good at finding gems who went undrafted or are hidden overseas.
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I totally get that it's not as easy to move up and grab a guy as we like to make it out to be.

But it sure killed me that Melton was so close. Sure felt like there could have been a move made to move up a few spots and grab him. I would have been happy with Melton at 21, would have felt really good to grab him in the 2nd. Houston got a solid one.
 
silesian said:
Rumor has it that Grayson likes the number 12. 1+2=3, matching his college number. There won't be any problem with him getting that # on his uni.
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I think he should go with 21 which is 2+1=3 and it's the position where he was picked (#21).
 
Jazz Spazz said:
This is from Bleacher Report.
Jonathan Wasserman thinks the Jazz will later regret picking Allen because Holiday, Okobo, and Hutchison were available.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2782773-nba-teams-that-will-regret-their-2018-nba-draft-pick

I don't know who the dude is but it sounds like he thinks Rubio is gone after this next year and that we needed a new PG on the roster to groom.
I don't think Rubio leaves.
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If Ricky leaves it is likely our choice. Quin believes in Ricky more than any of his other coaches did and worked more with him this year than any coach likely has. If anyone has listened to Ricky talk about our team and his experience they’d know.
 
Jazz Spazz said:
I don't think Rubio leaves.
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I don't either. I'm starting to get this feeling that we love our guys so much that we're just going to keep the same thing going for a few years and hope it turns into a title.

We'll keep Favors and Exum this summer.
We'll keep Rubio next summer and not add much because space will be limited.
We'll probably keep Crowder in summer of 2020 along with extending Mitchell.
We'll re-sign Gobert in 2021 and maybe Ingles too.

We really don't have that window when we're going to have "all this cap space" unless we let Favors and Rubio go in 2019.
 
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