Jazz set a record tonight!

[fallenchicken]

I'm going to suggest something revolutionary:

Why not, and just for a game or two, start our best players. Now I won't argue that Favors or Kanter should start (Favors should, but I'll let Ty start Sap, it's about compromise) but how about this: Burks, Hayward (the two play great together) and Foye. Tinsley's career is over now--i like the guy but he's hit the wall, same for Watson. I pick Foye over Demarre because we need his (Demarre's) energy with our second unit.

Second unit: Watson (he's slightly worse than Tinsley, probably, but he moves slightly faster), Demarre, Marvin, Favors, Kanter

Also, I heard on the radio broadcast that the jazz have gone the longest in the league without a change to the starting lineup. HOLY ****. How come good teams can change their starting lineups but we can't? I don't want to be hyperbolic, but we need to see Ty stand up to the starts that aren't producing when we have guys who can. Could you imagine if it was reversed: Hayward was struggling and Marvin was coming off the bench? How long would that last? Or if Watson was putting up the numbers Burks was, would Ty ever take Watson out of the game?

 

[fallenchicken]

I've been saying this for a month now.



Sadly, the worse he does the MORE likely it is that he opts in, not the other way around. If he gets relegated to the bench he's never going to think he can get more money from another team in the off season.

He knows he's not getting more money this season. No way does Marvin opt out. He's playing so bad he might not be in the league after this contract.

 

[green]

The team executed pretty good to start the game but they missed open shots. It happens. Last night's slow start was a lot better than coming out without energy and playing confused. Jefferson missed 3-4 good looks (minimum) and Foye clanked two shots badly.

Hayward working their entire backcourt was fun to watch, especially when Barnes was on him.

Ahhh. The Jazz schills back out again.

 

[green]

I'm going to suggest something revolutionary:

Why not, and just for a game or two, start our best players. Now I won't argue that Favors or Kanter should start (Favors should, but I'll let Ty start Sap, it's about compromise) but how about this: Burks, Hayward (the two play great together) and Foye. Tinsley's career is over now--i like the guy but he's hit the wall, same for Watson. I pick Foye over Demarre because we need his (Demarre's) energy with our second unit.

Second unit: Watson (he's slightly worse than Tinsley, probably, but he moves slightly faster), Demarre, Marvin, Favors, Kanter

Also, I heard on the radio broadcast that the jazz have gone the longest in the league without a change to the starting lineup. HOLY ****. How come good teams can change their starting lineups but we can't? I don't want to be hyperbolic, but we need to see Ty stand up to the starts that aren't producing when we have guys who can. Could you imagine if it was reversed: Hayward was struggling and Marvin was coming off the bench? How long would that last? Or if Watson was putting up the numbers Burks was, would Ty ever take Watson out of the game?

Favors is a better all around player than Al. Paul is a better all around player than Al. I do agree we should start our best players. Our starting lineup should be:

Burks (then Mo when Mo gets back)
Hayward
Carroll
Millsap
Favors

Bench:

Burks
Foye
Marvin
Al
Kanter

We would be so much better just due to better chemistry, situations for players.

 

[franklin]

Ahhh. The Jazz schills back out again.

All you ever do is bitch and moan about everything Corbin does, how the starters play, how the front office is running "Jazz basketball". Why are you even here?

p.s. The Jazz are 31-25 without a single All Star.

 

[green]

All you ever do is bitch and moan about everything Corbin does, how the starters play, how the front office is running "Jazz basketball". Why are you even here?

p.s. The Jazz are 31-25 without a single All Star.

I know. Imagine what their record would be with a coach that could actually coach.

 

[green]

All you ever do is bitch and moan about everything Corbin does, how the starters play, how the front office is running "Jazz basketball". Why are you even here?

p.s. The Jazz are 31-25 without a single All Star.

And all you do is sit back and eat up the diarrhea this team spews out. Why should Al start over Favors? What reasons do you have? Then tell me why Marvin, Foye and whatever geriatric pg should start over Burks.

Please. I eagerly await your response.

 

[Revolution 9]

I'm loving all the Marvin hate on here. His few supporters are all back in the closet where they belong.

Just think we get him all next year too (most likely as a starter, you know to help him get involved, and all).

 

[vegas]

Exactly. They just need time to warm up. The problem isn't that the three are bad players, it's the damn NBA schedule. Just too long in between games. That's naturally to blame. So give them each 35 mins next time!

I know we don't like +/- stats, but isn't it painfully obvious by now that the Jazz start off almost every game by digging a big hole? When was the last game the Jazz starters dominated? Bench clawed back, only to have the starters again suck wind in the 3rd.

Actually it was GS game and OKC before that. However, I follow this closely and it is the exception, not the rule.

Hayward does not get starter minutes off bench. He gets 24 or so


He needs 32-35

Go check who got the most mins on the Jazz last night.

In response to the OP it looks like Corbin only played Carroll less than Marvin and Tinsley. Foye also got less mins than normal. It is pretty sad to only have two starters score.

I don't know what to do with Marvin. It's interesting, Foye does really well in clutch, but is less effective throughout the game. The trouble with him is he shoots nearly the same percentage from 2 as 3. He is actually shooting less 2s the past couple years, but his skill is to be a specialist. Nobody expects Tinsley to score.

 

[franklin]

And all you do is sit back and eat up the diarrhea this team spews out. Why should Al start over Favors? What reasons do you have? Then tell me why Marvin, Foye and whatever geriatric pg should start over Burks.

Please. I eagerly await your response.

You remind me of the conspiracy nut jobs who honestly believe their own delusions while claiming everyone else is brainwashed.

 

[Getting Traded]

You remind me of the conspiracy nut jobs who honestly believe their own delusions while claiming everyone else is brainwashed.

Green makes valid points. Let's face it, Al and Foye are both offensive specialists not all around players. Their best role is off the bench when a team needs instant offense. And if they're off, then return them to the bench. The rest of their game doesn't warrant playing time. If they weren't good scorers, they wouldn't be in the NBA.

 

[green]

You remind me of the conspiracy nut jobs who honestly believe their own delusions while claiming everyone else is brainwashed.

Answer the question. Why should Al start over Favors? What does Al bring to the team that is essential?

Favors brings above average to great defense. His offense is good enough.

Again, what does Al bring that can't be brought with other players?

Favors dominates the paint. No one else can do that.

When Paul and Favors play together, we are an elite team, with a +13.

What does Al bring to the table that is essential to this team?

 

[carolinajazz]

....why is it that everyone can see this problem.....but Corbin and the entire Jazz front office??? Are they that stupid? Stubborn??? Dumb??? Ignorant??? Blind??? Pathetically incompetent??? On heavy drugs???

 

[franklin]

Answer the question. Why should Al start over Favors? What does Al bring to the team that is essential?

Favors brings above average to great defense. His offense is good enough.

Again, what does Al bring that can't be brought with other players?

Favors dominates the paint. No one else can do that.

When Paul and Favors play together, we are an elite team, with a +13.

What does Al bring to the table that is essential to this team?

Jazz fans don't apologize to morans for having a winning culture.

 

[green]

Jazz fans don't apologize to morans for having a winning culture.

LOL. Answer the question. What does Al do that makes him essential to this team? What skill does he have that can't be found elsewhere, in another player, that makes him more valuable than Kanter, Favors and Millsap.

If you can't answer the question, that's fine. But you are defending him, but you have nothing to back you up, other than weak sauce talking points.

Come on big boy, answer the question.

 

[bkralj]

Even though Foye was having a bad game, I would have still left him in there in the 4th quarter. Since they were down double digits they could have used his 3s and he might have got hot at some point. Glad to see Burks playing but he should have been playing pg at the end because Watson was single handedly costing the Jazz the game with his turnovers and acting like a stiff letting Clippers score on him at ease.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Don't worry, they'll get more minutes and more opportunities to score next game.

And God help us if they can't score in that game as well.