Jazz trade for John Collins

[Handlogten's Heros]

Hendricks will never average 22 in the NBA...

Never took you as a ppg basic B.

 

[fishonjazz]

Not last year's version of Collins. Go agreed and pull the stats. Hendricks are better I guarantee it

Fwiw they played similar amount of minuets and Hendricks averaged more points, more rebounds, more steals, more blocks, more assists and was more efficient.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Never took you as a ppg basic B.

If you want to argue who will be better in a limited role, that's a different convo, but as far as talent I would say JC has the clear edge

 

[KqWIN]

Fwiw they played similar amount of minuets and Hendricks averaged more points, more rebounds, more steals, more blocks, more assists and was more efficient.

Hmmm.....something feels off about this numbers comparison. I wonder what it could be lol.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Fwiw they played similar amount of minuets and Hendricks averaged more points, more rebounds, more steals, more blocks, more assists and was more efficient.

I'm trying hard to be a less mean poster....

 

[MT Steve]

View: https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1673397129522323479


Let's talk opportunity cost for a second. Who are the desirable FA's this trade will cause us to miss out on that we could have otherwise signed?

 

[homeytennis]

Hmmm.....something feels off about this numbers comparison. I wonder what it could be lol.

The All American Athletic Conference is a much tougher league than the NBA.

 

[stitches]

Some one give me the TLDR summary... I will pay you with a like or a love depending on quality tia.

He needed rest(the finger being put in a brace for extended period of time) to allow better recovery. Atlanta decided to play him through it risking worse/permanent damage. No idea what his condition is now.

 

[fishonjazz]

For whatever it's worth, that finger picture is from March 2022. I have no idea what it's like now. But here's a doctor talking about it back then.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRz5VYsluM4&ab_channel=BrianSuttererMD

Good to know. Thanks. I thought it was more recent

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Another HUGE thing to remember is that Walker Kessler is a guy who can potentially get played off the court in the playoffs.

This trade gives the Jazz the ability to play regular season and playoff lineups. We are matchup proof in the front court

 

[hgb]

KO has a date coming up where the Jazz guarantee the rest of his salary for this year. Does anyone know when that is?

https://jazzfanz.com/threads/2023-t...volving-the-jazz.190369/page-105#post-2327136
June 28 according to this.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

View: https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1673397129522323479


Let's talk opportunity cost for a second. Who are the desirable FA's this trade will cause us to miss out on that we could have otherwise signed?

Basically nobody. Ku would have been interesting but he is money hunting. He doesn't offer the small ball 5 versatility Collins does.

 

[framer]

It really does not. Jazz will have more than enough money to do that if they want.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Among players active in each of the past six seasons, Collins is one of just five to average 15 points on 55%-plus shooting, according to ESPN Stats & Information data. The other four are Nikola Jokic, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jonas Valanciunas and Domantas Sabonis.

 

[Elizah Huge]

View: https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1673397129522323479

Let's talk opportunity cost for a second. Who are the desirable FA's this trade will cause us to miss out on that we could have otherwise signed?

Nobody and depending on what happens with a couple of guys we could still end up with a max salary slot.

 

[fishonjazz]

Hendricks will never average 22 in the NBA...

Where did you get that from my post?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Where did you get that from my post?

I'm just saying what it is. Your post didn't say anything and thats putting it kindly

 

[Watcher]

You can get a decent look at his finger at 0:31 in this highlight video. Doesn't look perfect but seems reasonably ok.

Actually I guess that is not last season but the season before (2021-2022). So that video was not relevant.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If you want to argue who will be better in a limited role, that's a different convo, but as far as talent I would say JC has the clear edge

I would disagree but have no interest in the argument atm.

 

[fishonjazz]

Hmmm.....something feels off about this numbers comparison. I wonder what it could be lol.

Probably thinking about how the NBA game is way faster pace with more scoring and more possessions so Collins numbers are a little inflated in this comparison.