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Jazz Vote No To Lottery Reform

Going to feel very foolish when they barely miss the playoffs and realize they could have had a much better shot at a top pick. Of course, the real lottery reform has already been done: there is ZERO chance Cleveland will get the #1 pick again.
 
idiot said:
Likely concerns with ability of small market teams to get superstars if draft becomes less reliable.
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The teams that voted no is a wide mix of big market/small market and good/bad teams.
 
idiot said:
Likely concerns with ability of small market teams to get superstars if draft becomes less reliable.
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Because the current lottery system has been so kind to the Jazz? SRS this should increase the Jazz's chances of landing a superstar.
 
This is a big disappointment. I care about BB and this tanking mode option is a disaster to the game regardless of the applications on the Jazz.
 
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Right or wrong, the assumption behind this all seems to be that the league will work best if small market teams have the draft as a mechanism to get stars, since they will not be at an advantage to obtain them through free agency/players forcing trades.

Equalizing the draft, according to this logic and regardless of any individual team's situation in the near term, effectively widens the gap between large and small markets.
 
karpasov said:
This is a big disappointment. I care about BB and this tanking mode option is a disaster to the game regardless of the applications on the Jazz.
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Tanking is overstated. Clearly Philly was an offender this past season, as was GS a couple of years ago when they wanted to keep their pick. But there haven't been many other blatant cases. Yes, there's less of a reward for being really bad, but how would the new system affect a situation like Boston/Utah? You'd still want to finish with a worse record than the other team right next to you in the standings.
 
karpasov said:
This is a big disappointment. I care about BB and this tanking mode option is a disaster to the game regardless of the applications on the Jazz.
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There has to be bad teams though and would you rather them give terrible contracts out that make them mediocre for a long time, or have the potential to become a title contender after being bad for a while.
 
personally I thought the proposed changes went too far. It opened the first six positions of the draft to the lottery so the worst team could have ended up with the 7th pick and the odds were way too flat. Almost every team in the lottery had a chance at the number 1 pick. I would have hated having phoenix win the number one pick last year after almost making the playoffs in the West.

I think the proposal went too far. They should make it so that the four or five worst teams have the same odds of winning but the drop off is substantially after that. The 14th worst team should have almost no chance at number 1. And they should keep it so that only the first three spots are open to the lottery. This draft reform would have helped tanking and I think the small market teams could have gotten behind this option.
 
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oldtimer said:
personally I thought the proposed changes went too far. It opened the first six positions of the draft to the lottery so the worst team could have ended up with the 7th pick and the odds were way too flat. Almost every team in the lottery had a chance at the number 1 pick. I would have hated having phoenix win the number one pick last year after almost making the playoffs in the West.

I think the proposal went too far. They should make is to that the four or five worst teams have the same odds of winning but the drop off is substantially after that. The 14th worst team should have almost no chance at number 1. And they should keep it so that only the first three spots are open to the lottery. This draft reform would have helped tanking and I think the small market teams could have gotten behind this option.
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They should have voted for the odds reform and expanding the lotto separately. I imagine they could have gotten the odds reform through on it's own.
 
Agree with oldtimer.
TBH, I'm more upset about situations like Cleveland getting the top pick a couple of years given such low odds than Philly blowing up their team and attempting to rebuild through the draft. And the new system would just create more situations where a team that barely missed the playoffs might get a high pick.

Outside of Cleveland, I'm perfectly ok with how the draft worked out this season.
 
In other news PHX, OKC, NO, DET, MIA, MIL, San Antonio, Utah, Wash, ATL, CHA and Chicago all get free Philly cheese steaks when they play the Sixers!!
 
Zulu said:
In other news PHX, OKC, NO, DET, MIA, MIL, San Antonio, Utah, Wash, ATL, CHA and Chicago all get free Philly cheese steaks when they play the Sixers!!
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LOL!
Maybe they've also agreed to trade us Brandon Davies at the deadline for a 2nd-round pick.
 
i hope the "tank system" will end soon

last season was painful to watch jazz games and we lost hornacek
 
oldtimer said:
personally I thought the proposed changes went too far. It opened the first six positions of the draft to the lottery so the worst team could have ended up with the 7th pick and the odds were way too flat. Almost every team in the lottery had a chance at the number 1 pick. I would have hated having phoenix win the number one pick last year after almost making the playoffs in the West.
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I disagree. Outside of Eric Bledsoe playing half the year, Phoenix didn't really add to their talent pool last year. They added a coach and a system that complemented their players and allowed them to be competitive in the West. That's what ALL teams should be doing. Winning as many games as they can with the talent that they have.

Does anyone really think the Suns have a drastically more talented roster than the Jazz, Sacramento, Minnesota? Certainly no one did before last season. Why "punish" them for doing the best they could with the roster they had? The Suns are now stuck in no-mans land. Too well-run to add talent (with a top pick) and not good enough to be anything more than a 7th or 8th seed at best.

Which position would you rather be in? A team overachieving with virtually no potential to add to their talent pool (Suns) or a team with multiple young players that can potentially grow into stars and make you a playoff team (Utah)?
 
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