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Jazz vs Mavericks | Friday December 3rd @ 8:30pm

Worse game of the year for the Jazz. I give Dallas a lot of the credit but it seemed like AK, DW, AJ, Raja and Millsap were completely disinterested and confused. The zone seemed to completely confuse the team and they just wilted under Dallas pressure. Hello can anyone guard Dirk or Jason.

The second unit played a lot better in the second quarter but the achilles' heel for the second team is the lack of outside shooting. Heck the whole team sucked at outside shooting so the Mavs were able to pack the middle and keep Millsap and Jefferson at Bay. Our lack of height was obvious. It is just one game and the Jazz are known to put up stinker games but I can tell you that other teams took notice tonight and I am sure the Jazz will be seeing more zone.

The Jazz need to upgrade their wing position. Raja is a backup this time in his career and CJ is well CJ, Mr. Inconsistent. Okur will help when he comes back but the Jazz are obviously lacking consistent outside shooting.
 
I agree with a lot of what Numb and a few others said, the Jazz players got out played and hustled in the 2nd half as well as got out coached in the 2nd half, it probably wouldn't have mattered but it seemed coach Sloan in the late 3rd early 4th was scared or not trusting his bench. Now normally if you have to rely on a bench player(s) to win or comeback its not a good thing but they played pretty well in the first half and so far this season had been largely responsible for getting momentum back.

Thriller I remember a couple of the plays you mention with AK and he didn't seem to be the only one however. I don't think any Jazz player had a good 2nd half but Bell and AK seemed to especially disappear and the only time you noticed any of the other starters where because of mistakes or blown defense.

Most of the credit has to go the Mavs for out playing and out working the Jazz, just hope the Jazz remember and learn from this and make them pay for their over zealous celebrating.
 
The first 3 periods was basically a replay against the Milwaukee game - only this time against a much, much better team. Price, Watson, Bell and Miles went 4 for 20 combined - almost all jump shots.

The Jazz clanked at least a half dozen wide-open jumpers in the second period alone - they should have been up 15-18 points in that quarter. Then they clanked several more in the beginning of the 4th. By that time The Mavericks were way overdue for a major run.

Jazz need an instant offense guy in the second unit - and it's not Miles; he too inconsistent. When Memo comes back and he's ready to make a contribution this team will win games like this.
 
vj_74 said:
Thriller, I think Sloan kind of endorses your observation.
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Thanks.

It was really obvious. Like I said, I'm usually (if I'm at the game) in the nosebleed section. This time I got hooked up with seats just 5 rows up. I'm not sure if I've ever actually been in the lower bowl....

Needless to say, I paid a lot more attention to the game and could see their facial expressions, yells, and the way they ran their plays a lot better.

AK probably wasn't the only one screwing up (as others have mentioned). Elson was HORRIBLE with his passes, as it showed with 4 turnovers. I think Al and Millsap missed guys cutting in the lane trying to get layups. One instance in particular, was a Millsap drive and left handed layup when he could have dumped it down under the basket for an AK dunk (as Kidd was on him). Millsap scored but it was because of his individual play not because the offense was executed.

AK was the one I saw screw up multiple times... And was the root of Deron's frustration. I thought he was going to go off on AK like he did Hayward one of those times.

Dallas came in and kicked us around. They're still a real good team.
 
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Talking over the loss to Dallas

Published on Dec 4, 2010 01:14AM 0 Comments

Some late quotes from the Jazz after their 93-81 loss to Dallas:

Jerry Sloan, on Dallas' zone defense: "We had some trouble. When they started zoning us, we lost our position on the floor a few times and looked confused. We knew they would probably try and zone us, but we didn't have as good a spacing as we should have. ... Those things happen."

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Sloan, on the loss: "They came out and beat us in the second half. They really pushed the ball up the floor and we had a tough time getting back to try and cover them. We also missed some free throws, and their bench ... was kind of a problem for us. They bring a lot of good, veteran players [off the bench] who would start on a lot of teams."

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Deron Williams, on losing to the Mavericks: "We ran into a good team, playing as good as us -- better tonight. ... We had some good looks at the basket but missed some easy ones. Their zone stifled us a little bit. Then they went back to a man and we never got back to executing. If I could point to a couple of things, it would be they had 19 points off turnovers and then the free-throw shooting. If you shoot under 70 percent, it's hard to win a game."

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Williams, on how the loss impacts the Jazz in the Western Conference: "We're still one of the best teams. But we still have some ups and downs. This is one of those nights. Things just didn't go our way. The Mavericks played better than us. Simple as that."

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Andrei Kirilenko, on why the Mavericks outscored the Jazz, 54-38, in the second half: "I think we [had] a little lack of energy. ... In the first half, we were running. We were active. We were pressing them. In the second half, it was just a different team."

-- Steve Luhm
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The Mavs played some great ball. Beautiful defense. Good players playing really good ball. And their coach is doing a good job.
 
Well, this thread was definitely a failure and for that I apologize. I failed you Jazzfanzz.
 
VINYLONE said:
Well, this thread was definitely a failure and for that I apologize. I failed you Jazzfanzz.
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Apology accepted and really no apology needed I don't really blame you it was those damn jinx posts that got screwed up that did it.

Oh and if by "thread" you mean every thread and everything in your life up to this point I agree. If by "failure" you mean complete and utter epic fail then yes I also agree and by "Jazzfanzz" you mean everybody and anything that has ever existed then yes again I agree.
 
frustrating loss, but you have to tip your hat to the Mavs. What's not to like about that team? They have an unstoppable superstar; a savy vet PG; deep bench; length; a wing that knows how to score on his own. Those are the ingredients.

This loss sort of reminds me of the loss to the Spurs. The Jazz need to be able to run a two-man game when our complicated motion isn't producing. They need to be able to grab 6-8 pnts when they need it... control the pace of the game for a few minutes... and alter the structure of the game. Memo should help because he'll spread the floor for this to happen, but AJ needs to get a lot more automatic from inside 5 feet or we'll never get this going.
 
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The Thriller said:
It's Sloan's fault that we shot 21 percent from the 3 point line (CJ 2-6)?
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Hold on, hold on, hold on. It's CJ's fault the Jazz shot 21% from 3 because he shot significantly better than 21% from 3? Are you that stupid or do you just blindly hate CJ that much?
 
NUMBERICA said:
Hold on, hold on, hold on. It's CJ's fault the Jazz shot 21% from 3 because he shot significantly better than 21% from 3? Are you that stupid or do you just blindly hate CJ that much?
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dude, let me remind you that you are, in fact, talking to the one and only O Gatino. end of story.
 
New_Anonymity_Old_Sage said:
dude, let me remind you that you are, in fact, talking to the one and only O Gatino. end of story.
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THAT'S who that is? ****.

Anyway, 33% from 3 is not actually bad at all. It's effectively the same as 50% from 2. If you can shoot that every night, it's at worst a net-neutral. If his percentages would've held up, CJ should've shot MORE 3s.

If there was a problem from 3, it's that everyone appeared scared to shoot it. When Dallas is zoning and/or collapsing in the paint all night, it's time to try some 3-pt shooting at a higher rate. Miles and Deron accounted for 9 of the 14 3-pointers shot (and ALL of the makes), and while they're probably the most trustworthy personnel to be doing that, that just shows the sad state of affairs that the Jazz are in with that category. Part of the long-ball is having confidence, and if you can't trust yourself to take threes against a paint-packing philosophy, you're not going to get very far in the post-season. Or maybe even the regular season.
 
But I forget, the 3-point shot is overrated. Thanks TT.

If anyone knows my long-held views of Okur, this will be shocking; I'm dying to have Memo back.

Memo, I'm sorry buddy. We need you. Get your leg back to 100%. We need your size, strength, post-D, boxing out, and shooting.
 
Bright spots: Earl looked good once again. What a solid back up point guard we have. Even though his shot was off he had 5 dimes, and 4 boards.
I'll take it. He found a way to contribute.

Fes - 2 nice offensive moves, and SEVEN, yes SEVEN rebounds. That's 5 more than Boozer had tonight ;-)
His problem is like Miles though. Can he become more consistent. It's obvious there is talent there.

Big AL + Sap - for the most part they did their part. 39 pts, 4 blocks, 15 boards should be good enough most nights.

The Bad:
Bell. Wow. Not a zone buster. 28 mins = 2 pts? from our starting 2 guard? ouch dude. Go Jazz's 7 year old can make more shots than you.

Zone busting. Speaking of the zone, we sucked against it tonight. No one could hit a jumper. Deron and Bell were off. No Korver, nothing.

Deron Williams - quite simply an off night from the all-star. He's allowed these games once in awhile. It's too bad it happened last night though.
We could have used some scoring from Willy.

Cj Miles - not really bad, just meh. Hit a couple 3s then airballed some. Just all over the place, and not giving us anything consistent.

Dissappointing loss, but one I can live with. The Mavs played well in the 2nd half, and the refs gave them most of the calls.
Got to learn from this, and move on.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
Apology accepted and really no apology needed I don't really blame you it was those damn jinx posts that got screwed up that did it.

Oh and if by "thread" you mean every thread and everything in your life up to this point I agree. If by "failure" you mean complete and utter epic fail then yes I also agree and by "Jazzfanzz" you mean everybody and anything that has ever existed then yes again I agree.
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Thanks....for completely ruining my Saturday.
 
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