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Jazz Will Beat The Warriors On Wednesday 7 PM MT 03/30/16

The feed I was watching for the game started playing the new Star Wars and it has calmed me down.

Sad loss, coulda, woulda, shoulda.
 
FT's hurt , no doubt but some terrible calls didn't help

Lyles clean strip on Thompson ( I think it was ) , Gordon's clean block on Thompson.

Last 15 seconds , I dunno why we wouldn't go with Hood at the point , we miss Burks in this situation and he's ability to get to the rim .
 
jazfan23 said:
FT's hurt , no doubt but some terrible calls didn't help

Lyles clean strip on Thompson ( I think it was ) , Gordon's clean block on Thompson.

Last 15 seconds , I dunno why we wouldn't go with Hood at the point , we miss Burks in this situation and he's ability to get to the rim .
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Would be really great to get Burks back as a wild card for the playoffs
 
I liked the Warriors last year, but Ive had enough of them especially Green. Shut the hell up already.
He is so annoying! I might even root for the Cavs to beat them (they wont).
 
King Cy said:
I just look forward to the time when this team figures out how to prevent their offense from complete stagnating in the final minutes of games.
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Don't want to beat a dead horse but iirc Burks was very good at the end of games early on this year. I seem to remember him being one of the best in the league in the last 5 minutes or something
 
Cunning Linguist said:
I feel like this may be the best game I've seen Hayward play offensively. Ever. His shot's off. I get it. But that's a whole 'nother story. And his stat line isn't great. But he's been a ****ing bull attacking tonight. That's what the great players do in games that matter. Attack, attack, attack.
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And then when it really mattered, he did really dumb ****. SMFH.
 
DownUnder said:
I'm trying to decide what's been more nauseatingly exciting and painful, watching the game unfold or reading this board in the aftermath ...

I for one am choosing to view the positives, the fact that this young team with a bajillion injuries played the defending champs/greatest team of our current generation this way and only lost because of their own mistakes as an almighty good thing. The mistakes blow, it sucked to lose but geez ... add a few more players and internal growth to the team that competed this way bodes so well for the future. They'll learn from the mistakes and i really hope we get to play the warriors in the playoffs so they can experience a few more games like this.

the only real negative was the injury ..
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Nope, the other real negative ia that we should be in the 7 seed right now, just 3 games behind the Grizz for the 5 seed.
 
Shoulda woulda coulda, reality is that most people wouldn't have had any chance to win this at all. Perhaps the warriors had an off night, but if that was the case, so did we.

It could have gone either way, and that is only a positive sign for us.. As always we things that we need to focus on to improve, but as long as we continue to improve it should be fine. Frustrating as it was to watch, it was still a nailbiter worth watching, at least until the start of overtime.

Hopefully Favors is ok.(because we still need him to be ok)..
 
Holy **** I'm tired of this we need to continue to improve ******** and we can learn from this ********. How long is our current core going to have a window in the NBA? 15 years??? No. Maybe 8-10. That's it. And we need to take steps now that we have the opportunity to take. Winning this game last night to get to 3 games behind the 5th seed would've been a huge step. We can legit beat the Clips multiple times in a series. Hell, imo, maybe even win the series if we let our balls drop. It was there for the taking and we let it slip away.

So now, the 7th or 8th seed and a sweep is quite likely. What does that do for us exactly other than psycholoigcally tell our players we're decent to good but not near great? We'll go into next year having won no playoff games and Hayward (who I'm not singly blaming here but rather singling out since he's paid the most and is our "best player"), who needs more experience already will have had six full seasons under his belt. Seriously, when do the excuses stop? How many ****ing seasons does the guy need to play in the NBA before we can hold him (and others) accountable?

If healthy, what can we do next year? Make the 4th seed? But will we have the poise to win that series against the Clips or someone else? Bottom line. We have to win a playoff series next season. Nothing else is tolerable. We can't enter Hayward's 8th year with him at 27.5 years of age with no playoff series wins.

Last night would've been such a huge mental hurdle to cross for us. And we clipped the 10th hurdle with our toe and fell flat on our ****ing face.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Holy **** I'm tired of this we need to continue to improve ******** and we can learn from this ********. How long is our current core going to have a window in the NBA? 15 years??? No. Maybe 8-10. That's it. And we need to take steps now that we have the opportunity to take. Winning this game last night to get to 3 games behind the 5th seed would've been a huge step. We can legit beat the Clips multiple times in a series. Hell, imo, maybe even win the series if we let our balls drop. It was there for the taking and we let it slip away.

So now, the 7th or 8th seed and a sweep is quite likely. What does that do for us exactly other than psycholoigcally tell our players we're decent to good but not near great? We'll go into next year having won no playoff games and Hayward (who I'm not singly blaming here but rather singling out since he's paid the most and is our "best player"), who needs more experience already will have had six full seasons under his belt. Seriously, when do the excuses stop? How many ****ing seasons does the guy need to play in the NBA before we can hold him (and others) accountable?

If healthy, what can we do next year? Make the 4th seed? But will we have the poise to win that series against the Clips or someone else? Bottom line. We have to win a playoff series next season. Nothing else is tolerable. We can't enter Hayward's 8th year with him at 27.5 years of age with no playoff series wins.

Last night would've been such a huge mental hurdle to cross for us. And we clipped the 10th hurdle with our toe and fell flat on our fucing face.
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It was a tough game, but you are very wrong.

The only way we were ever getting the 5 seed was an epic collapse. It could still happen, but it was never likely.

The 6 seed is still in play. We were never supposed to win last night, so acting like now the whole season is screwed up is the wrong reaction. We wanted to go 5-3 down the stretch. Fish wins his bet and we'd have a decent chance to get the 6. The losses were GSW, Spurs, and Clippers.

Maybe we can beat the Clippers at home at make it 6-2 or get a bad loss somewhere else. But if we end at 42 we've accomplished our goal in my opinion. This game was ALWAYS chalked up as an L.
 
Free throw percentage for the game: 44%. Deandre jordanish. Smd

Favors injury. Huge loss.

Haywards block on thompson called a foul.

The offensive rebound on the warriors last possesion of regulation.

The non flagrant call that took favors out. (Though I gotta admit, I wouldn't have called it a flagrant. Still though)

Hayward shooting the step back fade away against curry for the airball.

The tech on hayward.

The last possession of regulation for the jazz.

Burks not able to play and take some of the offensive load off/ingles probably playing more than he should.


These are the things I think of when I think of frustrating things that greatly contributed to the loss... But most obvious and egregious is that 44% from the line. I mean hayward is a really good free throw shooter, yet in the 4th last night he stepped up to the line and missed BOTH free throws. That never happens. ****ing mack takes a practice free throw after missing his first on a trip to the line and of course THAT ONE goes in.

Franchise record for OT games in a season. Fml
 
Bawse Dawg said:
It was a tough game, but you are very wrong.

The only way we were ever getting the 5 seed was an epic collapse. It could still happen, but it was never likely.

The 6 seed is still in play. We were never supposed to win last night, so acting like now the whole season is screwed up is the wrong reaction. We wanted to go 5-3 down the stretch. Fish wins his bet and we'd have a decent chance to get the 6. The losses were GSW, Spurs, and Clippers.

Maybe we can beat the Clippers at home at make it 6-2 or get a bad loss somewhere else. But if we end at 42 we've accomplished our goal in my opinion. This game was ALWAYS chalked up as an L.
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Lots of truth here. I thought we had no chance and had this one marked down as a loss. Still really really stings though.

The key is favors health. He can't miss any games for the jazz to get to 42. Would also be nice to get Burks back as well.
 
Reason this game was hard for me, and from the comments I am assuming others, is that the Jazz lost it at the FT line. 40 something %? Give me a break. Jazz missed 15+ FTs in the 4th. 15+! They make them at the season average and the Jazz would have won by 8 or so...
 
What is interesting about this game is that the Jazz show that they match up well with the Warriors and if they are healthy come playoff time -- Burks back, Favors is ok, I think there is a possibility for an upset. We totally outplayed them last night and if we could've made our free throws would've won by a comfortable margin, regardless of the bad calls -- and that's without Burks and Favors (for half the game), and Exum, as well.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Last night would've been such a huge mental hurdle to cross for us. And we clipped the 10th hurdle with our toe and fell flat on our fucing face.
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This. I'm tired of moral victories. We're like 6-0 in those right now, but it counts for **** all in the actual standings, where we are again under .500. This is not a learning experience of any kind, because our team never learns, apparently. If anyone learned anything from games like this, it wouldn't keep happening. Over and over. It makes no difference how close you can get to beating the Warriors if you can't actually beat the Warriors. It make no difference whether we lost by 48 last night or because of an offensive rebound on the last possession.

And speculating about what would have happened if Favors wasn't hurt or Burks played or Burke played is pointless. You cannot change variables and expect nothing else to change. The point is that no matter what happens, no matter how good you are, there will always be close games and you need to find a way to win them. The Warriors are about the break the record for games won in a season, and they have still been involved in 6 overtime games. That's almost 1-in-10. I'm sure you all saw the infographic last night showing how they did in those games.

Just win these damn games. No excuses. Just win them. And if the current coach can't get the players to do it(and he obviously can't and is in over his head Dubya style) then get someone who can. Quickly.
 
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